Saturday, January 31, 2015

[Video] Obama Birth Certificate Bombshell?

Sheriff Joe Arpaio is not giving up and he just made a startling revelation to Freedom Friday's Carl Gallups.






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  1. There is a petition for congress to investigate in Obama's forged birth certificate and stolen SSNs. Go to orlytaitzesq.com. Scroll down and click on the Statue of Liberty picture to petition.
    PLEASE don't GIVE UP! Remove Obama = Restoration of our liberties!
    If Obama is removed for his ineligibility, then all of his laws are also illegal. And Biden would only be the remaining POTUS for a couple of months until an early election. Doesn't necessarily mean Boehner would run and win.
    Please pass this on to others! Together we can make a huge difference.

    To learn more about this issue go to
    youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=BUcyb5pm­­­­­UKI

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    1. Every child born on US soil is a Natural Born US citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats, and Obama's birth on US soil (in Hawaii) has been proven by: (1) his Hawaii birth certificate; (2) the repeated confirmation of their sending it to Obama and all the facts on it being the same as what they sent by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii; (3) the public Index Data file; (4) the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and ONLY the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the papers, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii); (5) the Hawaii teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after hearing of the birth of a child to a woman NAMED STANLEY from the head of obstetrics at Kapiolani Hospital; (6) the INS inspector who checked on Obama's father's residence status and wrote: "They have one child, born in HONOLULU."

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    2. If that's the case, why have millions been spent and at least one suspicious death (fuddy) to keep "o"boy's records sealed?

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    3. He is a FAKE no doubt about it!! People are so tired of this fight that has been going since his election in 08. The thought of 2 more yrs is overwhelming at best!! Not a damn thing we can do....it all needs to come from the republicans that continue to push this away! Why?!!! Money, Fear? What?? Sheriff Joe & Orly have been at this for years with NO results. I support them & do what I can but again I am so tired!

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    4. O'bama's birth cert just as fake as his claim to be a
      "christian"...centuries have proven that ....if it walks like...
      sounds like...looks like...it must be a duck. He is of muslim background, behaves like a muslim, bows down like...says their morning chant is the sweetest sound...he is a muslim and our greatest interior threat.
      I'm damn tired of those who are afraid to call him what he is....the people's enemy !!

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    5. It is very obvious that the birth certificate offered as the 'official' one, is as fake as a three dollar bill would be. Obama is an orchestrated plant to destroy America and there are many involved in the plot. If anyone thinks that man is for this nation or presidential material at all, they are nuts flat out! Sorry, there is far too much proof that all he does is undermine who we are, what we were founded to be and thinks HE has the right to 'change' ALL of our history and heritage! He thinks just because he wants to and so do some other communist's that he can. Obama is a Marxist muslim who is the figurehead in a large scheme and I will celebrate the day that that man and those that are in this with him get what is coming to them all. Outrageous and evil the whole mess. We, as patriotic Americans, MUST clean out the government, get rid of the corruption, and for heaven sake- figure a way to stop the spending that Obama has racked up in his time. It is just horrific the things that man has done! All one has to do is read something except the idiotic leftist's rants to see that the most evil person so far in our history- sits where a REAL president should be. Granted, others have made mistakes, but NONE have gone to the extreme that O has to run down, destroy and ruin the freedoms, rights, liberty, economy and honor of our nation! He thinks our Constitution is bad--WELL IF IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR OUR FOUNDING FATHERS'S IT IS WAY GOOD ENOUGH FOR AMERICA! Obama and his whole crew are hypocritical phonies who have been disgraceful, disgusting, and treasonous! Obama is the worst excuse for anyone that should be anywhere NEAR Washington and our government. He is a muslim and is FOR the muslims and the 'change' he wants to make in OUR nation. That is to subjugate a FREE nation to Islam and to those horrid people who are a totalitarian governmental system of evil! After all they ALL believe in the same book..the Koran which is nothing but evil gibberish! NO other group of people are anything like these lying conniving group of people who 'demand' to rule the world with Islam! And Obama is one of them and kowtows to them here over our rights! Treason, lies, obnoxious comments as to the rights of our Constitution, has attracted and ignored our laws, and has mis-represented our nation abroad to the worst effect. He is nothing but an empty sell of ignorant words that he does not mean when he 'tries' to sound like a patriot; which he has stated that he is not! He has said that we should 'change' just because he and some say so! We DO NOT want to change our Constitution or founding in America! We ARE proud of this nation...it is just the idiot politicians that need to be thrown out on their ears for not listening to We, the People and following the construction of our country and the laws of the land! And just who is this no body man, Obama to say anything about what America is or is not or should be? He is a rude, arrogant puppet---that is ALL!

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    6. I see some with fasle facts , some with good facts too. The only fact that matters is Obama Hitler's Jr own attorney went to court and addmitted that the birth certifacte evil used was a forged doc.

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    7. Huapakechi said: "If that's the case, why have millions been spent and at least one suspicious death (fuddy) to keep "o"boy's records sealed?"

      Answer: It is simply a birther LIE that Obama had anything "sealed." The facts are that Obama showed his birth certificate---twice, short form and long form---and the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent them to him and that all the facts on the published copies are exactly the same as on what they sent him. So, duh, he did not "seal" either of those documents.

      And he did not "seal" anything else either. He certainly did not seal his school or college records; he simply did not show them. (Did you think that presidents and presidential candidates normally showed their school and/or college records? Well, they don't. Mitt Romney didn't show his nor John McCain nor Clinton nor Bush41 nor Reagan nor Carter, etc., etc.). Neither Obama's school records nor McCain's nor Romney's are "sealed." They are all covered under the normal state and federal privacy laws.

      In short, the "sealed" myth comes from another birther lie.

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    8. Anonymous said: "the only fact that matters is Obama Hitler's Jr own attorney went to court and addmitted that the birth certifacte evil used was a forged doc. "

      Answer: That would be very important IF IT WERE TRUE. But, duh, it isn't.

      It is another blatant birther lie, made up by a birther site and not substantiated anywhere---not anywhere at all. (Don't you think that IF it were true, Romney wouldn't mention it in his campaign and members of Congress would not mention it and call for an investigation?

      No, you are too eager to find something---anything---that shows that Obama is not eligible. So you are willing to believe the birther lies. Well, the claim that Obama's lawyer said that his birth certificate is forged is a lie. So is the claim that former Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie said that he could not find Obama's birth certificate (he never said anything like it at all). So is the claim that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya (she actually said that Obama was born in HAWAII---want to see the transcript? [birther sites cut off the tape recordings on their sites just before she was asked where he was born---to which she replied: "in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Once again, want to see the transcript? Or would you like to see the other two interviews with the Kenyan grandmother---neither of which birther sites showed you, of course. In one of them she said that the first that her family had heard of Obama's birth was IN A LETTER FROM HAWAII, and in the other she simply said that Obama was not born in Kenya, which, btw, the Kenyan government has said too.].).

      In any case, Obama's lawyer certainly did not admit that Obama's birth certificate is forged. It was a made up story on a birther site.

      (The general story that Obama's birth certificate is forged is a birther myth as well. Birther sites have not shown their readers all, or any for that matter, of the many real experts who say that Obama's birth certificate is not forged. Now, I wonder why they do not show the real experts???)

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    9. Birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

      Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

      Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

      John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

      Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily: “All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

      Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

      Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.

      Nor have they answered the research done on the Xerox WorkCentre:

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-shows-obama-birth-certificate-artifacts-caused-by-xerox-machine-no-joy-in-birtherville/

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    10. The actual definition of natural born citizen is where BOTH parents are US citizens.
      Forget the birth certificate and where he was born, he is disqualified because his dad
      was not a US citizen, plain and simple. The birth certificate is nothing more than a distraction.

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    11. Re: "The actual definition of natural born citizen is where BOTH parents are US citizens."

      Answer: Who told you that? It is wrong.


      “Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition

      “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).



      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      "Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning."---The Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574322281597739634.html?KEYWORDS=obama+%22natural+born+citizen%22+minor+happersett)

      "Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)

      And there have now been EIGHT state court rulings on Obama alone, and one federal court ruling on Obama, and one more state court ruling on McCain. All TEN of them said that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen was defined by the US Supreme Court in the Wong Kim Ark case, and that the Wong Kim Ark case said that the meaning of Natural Born came from the common law (as Meese also said), and that it referred to the place of birth (as Meese, Hatch and Graham all say), and that every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born US Citizen.

      (Want to see some of the rulings??)

      More reading on the subject:

      http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/

      http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012

      http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/04/vattel-and-natural-born-citizen/


      http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html

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  2. One can only hope.

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  3. Hope solves nothing...it is ACTION that makes a difference! The Florida Memorial passed because the electorate melted the phone lines & jammed the Legislators' mail slots.

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  4. You have to be loony to believe Sheriff Joe.


    https://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2014/10/31/was-the-ccp-birth-certificate-investigation-pay-to-play/


    http://www.wfsb.com/story/27170194/birther-posse-chief-i-accepted-10000-gift-from-source


    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2014/09/arpaio-had-no-evidence-former-deputy-chief-says/

    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2013/08/joe_arpaios_sham_investigation.php



    Oh, and this is what the National Review has been saying about Sheriff Joe for YEARS.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors

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    1. You are nuts. I love and respect Sheriff Joe. A real Patriot.

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    2. You are entitled to your OPINION. But not one single member of Congress has supported Sheriff Joe in his claims about Obama despite hundreds of "Sheriff Kits" mailed to them. The reason, of course, is that Sheriff Joe does not have any real evidence, and the evidence that Obama really was born in Hawaii is overwhelming. Here is just a little of it:

      Here are the confirmations of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, repeated confirmations (and by the way, the one to the secretary of state of Arizona, a conservative Republican, was ACCEPTED by the secretary of state of Arizona, who then put Obama on the ballot):

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/heres-the-birth-certificate/


      Here is the confirmation by the former governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican (and a friend of Sarah Palin’s), that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital:

      http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html

      Here is the statement of the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after being told of birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, of a child to a woman named Stanley:

      http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don%27t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm

      Here are the birth notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961:

      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php

      (And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)

      Here is the Index Data file:

      http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html





      Birther sites have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961, and it would have been rare for her to have one since so few 18-year-olds did in that year. And EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in 1961 (and she would have had to have traveled late in pregnancy since she was attending college for most of the year) because of the risk of stillbirths. Yet birthers hope to convince a few GULLIBLE people to assume that she was one of the few 18-year-olds to have a passport and one of the EXTREMELY few women to travel abroad late in pregnancy, and that Obama's birth certificate is forged AND the officials of BOTH parties are lying about it AND so is the Index Data AND so are the birth notices AND so is the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after hearing of the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley, and BTW, Kapionani Hospital has now confirmed Obama was born there--in fact it has done so TWICE (birther sites did not show either of them).

      And BTW, birther sites LIED about the Kenyan grandmother. She never said that Obama was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii repeatedly. Birther sites simply did not quote her and cut off the tape recording on their sites just BEFORE she was asked where he was born (I wonder why they did that??) Her answer to the question where Obama was born was "In Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." (But birther sites refused to quote her and cut off the tape that included her statement.)


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    3. smrstrauss -- It is not true that a person born in the US is a natural born citizen.

      An American man, married to a French woman, are living in Turkey when their baby is born. Of what country is the baby a citizen? A German man married to a Kenyan woman are immigrating to the United States when their baby is born on the ship half way across the Atlantic. Of what country is the baby a citizen?
      One thing I like about “true” debates is not only that the proposition to be debated is stated and agreed upon, but that the proposition is clearly understood by the debaters. That can only be done if each word in the proposition is clearly defined. The same must be done regarding the meaning of the constitution. Is it not quizzical why the forefathers, when writing the qualifications of the president in the constitution, stated, “ No Persons except a natural born Citizen,...shall be eligible to the Office of President” (Article II, Section1). Why “natural” born?” Surely this is not natural born vs caesarian section? Why not native-born? What does “natural born” mean? What was the forefather’s reference that natural-born was used in the constitution?
      In 1758 Emmerich de Vattel wrote the Law of Nations. In 1775, three copies of it were sent by a Swiss editor to Benjamin Franklin. In thanking him, Franklin wrote, “It (Law of Nations - JM) came to is in good season, when circumstances of a rising state make it necessary to frequently consult the Law of Nations.” The Law of Nations is specifically referenced in the US Constitution, Article I, Section 8, regarding crimes on the high seas, which shows that it was a reference in the constitution’s formation.
      Regarding citizenship, the Law of Nations (Book I, Chapter 19, section 212) states, “... in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” The forefathers’ purpose for this constitutional qualification was so to guard against a president who might hold allegiance to another country. Barrack Obama wrote in “Dreams of My Father,” that his father was a Kenyan, not an American.

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    4. smrstrauss - Being born in the United States when one parent is not a citizen, that child is not Natural Born. The child born in this country when the father is not a citizen is not Natural Born since the child takes the citizenship of the father. I should also tell you that the Kenyan Parliament had mentioned that the United States elected a son of Kenya as President of the United States. That tells me that he was not born in Hawaii but was born in Kenya.

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    5. Re: "Being born in the United States when one parent is not a citizen, that child is not Natural Born. The child born in this country when the father is not a citizen is not Natural Born since the child takes the citizenship of the father."

      Who told you that? A birther site probably (?). Well, whomever told it to you, it is wrong.


      “Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition

      “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).



      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      "Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning."---The Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574322281597739634.html?KEYWORDS=obama+%22natural+born+citizen%22+minor+happersett)

      "Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)


      More reading on the subject:

      http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/

      http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012

      http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/04/vattel-and-natural-born-citizen/



      http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html

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    6. Re: "I should also tell you that the Kenyan Parliament had mentioned that the United States elected a son of Kenya as President of the United States. That tells me that he was not born in Hawaii but was born in Kenya."

      Answer: Believing Obama was born in Kenya shows how nutty you (and other birthers) are.

      Here is the complete Immigration and Nationalization Services (INS) report for the year that included August 1961:


      http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim1962unit#page/n4/mode/1up


      Scroll down to page 74, about two-thirds of the way down in the book, and you will find the Kenya arrivals listing—there were only 21 arrivals.

      On page 77, the same report shows the number of people who WENT to Kenya in fiscal 1961, and that shows that only 63 did (of whom 60 were Americans), and that of the 63 not a single person, not one, went by air. They ALL went by ship.

      So, according to birther theory, Obama’s mother, in the last two months of pregnancy at the age of 18, was among the 60 Americans who went to Kenya by sea in the year Obama was born and one of the seven Americans who came to the USA from Kenya in that year, and again she traveled by sea (since no Americans came to the USA from Kenya by air).

      There were, by the way, no normally scheduled direct ships from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961---making an alleged trip by Obama and his mother most unlikely---to say the least.

      IN ADDITION to the above. The Kenyan government, through its embassy, has said that Obama was NOT born in Kenya---and the Hawaii government (officials of both parties including the former Republican governor, a strong supporter of Sarah Palin's) has repeatedly confirmed the facts on Obama's Hawaii birth certificate.


      http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …

      In addition to the above:

      Here are the confirmations of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, repeated confirmations (and by the way, the one to the secretary of state of Arizona, a conservative Republican, was ACCEPTED by the secretary of state of Arizona, who then put Obama on the ballot):

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/heres-the-birth-certificate/


      Here is the confirmation by the former governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican (and a friend of Sarah Palin’s), that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital:

      http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html

      Here is the statement of the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after being told of birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, of a child to a woman named Stanley:

      http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don%27t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm

      Here are the birth notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961:

      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php

      (And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)

      Here is the Index Data file:

      http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html

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  5. How's that hope and change working out for you?

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  6. Wow, I knew some folks lost their collective minds when President Obama won both elections, but this is insanity to the fullest. You people need to get a grip on reality, he is not going away .

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  7. His own Kenyan grandmother said she was present when he was born in Kenya, then his mother took him to Hawaii, where they had his birth recorded, but the record from Hawaii does not have an official stamp, it was simply a record of a birth as was done at the time when a birth was not actually on U.S. soil. The Kenyan's all claim he was born in Kenya and celebrate it.

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    1. And he's screwed up so badly now that even Kenya no longer wants to claim him.

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    2. Jo said: "His own Kenyan grandmother said she was present..."

      Actually, she didn't. That was a blatant birther LIE. In fact, she said that Obama was born IN HAWAII. Birther sites simply cut off the tape recordings on their sites just before she said: "In Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." (Now, I wonder why a birther site would do that??)

      (Want to see the transcript of the call?)

      (How about the two OTHER interviews with the Kenyan grandmother---neither of which birther sites showed you at all, and in one of them she said that the first that her family had heard of Obama's birth was in A LETTER FROM HAWAII (now I wonder why a birther site would not show you that). And, in the other one she simply said that Obama was NOT born in Kenya (now I wonder why birther sites would not show you that?) BTW, the Kenyan government has also said that Obama was NOT born in Kenya.


      http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …

      Re: "but the record from Hawaii does not have an official stamp,"

      Answer: You can see the official stamp on Obama's short-form birth certificate (which, BTW, is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii and is accepted by the US state department for issuing passports and the branches of the US military for enlistments) quite clearly in this photo (see raised seal in third photo from the top):

      http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/

      (Some Kenyans DO believe that Obama was born in Kenya---just as some Americans believe in ghosts. But neither are true. So, duh, belief in something----even by Kenyans----does not make it true.)

      The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on alleged birth certificates, like that of Lucas D. Smith.

      Lucas D. Smith claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof (Now, I wonder why he will not do that?).

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  8. THEY WANT TO STOP CRUZ ON THE UN-AMERICAN RULE. BUT THEY COVERED UP FOR AN ISLAMO LENINIST AND CARRIED HIM TO HIS THRONE. THE FIRST PRESIDENT TO HATE THE COUNTRY HE PRETENDS TO COME FROM. HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE WAS SIGNED BY A WITCH DOCTOR.

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    1. Obama is for sure a Natural Born Citizen since he was born in Hawaii, a US state (and that is sufficient to create a Natural Born Citizen). In contrast, Cruz was born in Canada. He MAY be a Natural Born Citizen (since his mother was a US citizen and he was never naturalized and hence is presumed to be a US citizen at birth). On the other hand, some disagree with that and think that people have to be born on US soil to be a Natural Born Citizen for certain:

      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      Obama's Hawaii birth certificate was signed by Dr. David Sinclair, and his widow has said that she recognized his signature.

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  9. An American man, married to a French woman, are living in Turkey when their baby is born. Of what country is the baby a citizen? A German man married to a Kenyan woman are immigrating to the United States when their baby is born on the ship half way across the Atlantic. Of what country is the baby a citizen?
    One thing I like about “true” debates is not only that the proposition to be debated is stated and agreed upon, but that the proposition is clearly understood by the debaters. That can only be done if each word in the proposition is clearly defined. The same must be done regarding the meaning of the constitution. Is it not quizzical why the forefathers, when writing the qualifications of the president in the constitution, stated, “ No Persons except a natural born Citizen,...shall be eligible to the Office of President” (Article II, Section1). Why “natural” born?” Surely this is not natural born vs caesarian section? Why not native-born? What does “natural born” mean? What was the forefather’s reference that natural-born was used in the constitution?
    In 1758 Emmerich de Vattel wrote the Law of Nations. In 1775, three copies of it were sent by a Swiss editor to Benjamin Franklin. In thanking him, Franklin wrote, “It (Law of Nations - JM) came to is in good season, when circumstances of a rising state make it necessary to frequently consult the Law of Nations.” The Law of Nations is specifically referenced in the US Constitution, Article I, Section 8, regarding crimes on the high seas, which shows that it was a reference in the constitution’s formation.
    Regarding citizenship, the Law of Nations (Book I, Chapter 19, section 212) states, “... in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” The forefathers’ purpose for this constitutional qualification was so to guard against a president who might hold allegiance to another country. Barrack Obama wrote in “Dreams of My Father,” that his father was a Kenyan, not an American.

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    1. Some of the writers of the US Constitution did indeed read Vattel---but then they read a lot of other books too. What we know for sure is that Vattel is not even mentioned once in the Federalist Papers, while the common law is mentioned about twenty times----and always with praise. More importantly, the US Supreme Court in the Wong Kim Ark case RULED that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and includes every child born on US soil except for the children of foreign diplomats and members of invading enemy armies.

      That is why the Heritage Foundation book on the US Constitution says:


      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      For links to more articles and some of the many appeals court cases (ALL of which the birther side lost), see below.

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    2. Re: "Why not "native born"?

      Because the term in the common law was Natural Born, not native born.

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  10. Please read this: Marc Jeric • Top Commenter • UCLA
    B. Hussein Obama was born in Mombasa in what is now Kenya on August 4, 1961 at 7:24 PM – and not in Honolulu, Hawaii. Four simple questions must be answered here:
    1. Back in 1961 people of color were called “Negroes”. So how can that Obama’s “birth certificate” state that he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time? Also – he could not have been an “African-American” since his mother was white; at best he should have been classified as an African White.

    2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 and lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. That “long form” certificate was fabricated after the “short form” certificate was shown to be a rather sloppy computer-generated fabrication that had to be eliminated from circulation. At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father was 25 years old and that he was born in "Kenya, East Africa" in 1936. This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".

    3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital ". This cannot be, because the hospitals in question in 1961 were separate entities called respectively "Kaui Keolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home”. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978? Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media? Let me repeat this: Let somebody explain to this former refugee from a communist hell how come our Main Stream Media have been not only silent about this affair but more than that have been condescending and rather inimical to us “the truthers”? Their silence and their cover-up have made them the co-conspirators in this ongoing crime.

    4. Another clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WWII. Barack Hussein Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's date of birth approximately in 1936. Now we need to remember that WWII was between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in wars? Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his political purposes?

    My own question is this: How come a President of the most powerful country in the history of the world could not secure services of better professional forgers? Not only that – but this mess to happen after the short-form “birth certificate” was shown to be a really low-quality forgery that had to be speedily retracted!

    http://freedomforce.com/1256/will-walkers-record-plus-minus-2016-bid/

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    1. Re the four questions. Here are the four answers:

      Re: “In 1961 people of color were called “Negroes.” So how can the Obama “birth certificate” state he is “African-American” when the term wasn’t even used at that time?”

      ANSWER: First it does not say “African-American.” It says “African.” Only African.

      The explanation is simple. In Hawaii you were allowed to use any word you wanted to describe your race. There was no checklist, and no one stood over you saying what you had to enter. There are entries in Hawaii of people listing their race as “American.” So you were allowed to use any word you wanted.

      And what was the word that African exchange students commonly used to describe their race in the 1960s? Answer: African.

      Re: 2. “… Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known then as the “British East Africa Protectorate”.”

      Answer. You are out of date with that name. Kenya stopped being called the British East African Protectorate in 1920. In that year it was renamed. What was the name? THE KENYA COLONY.

      In short, it was called Kenya (Kenya short for “The Kenya Colony”), and it was in East Africa, so the entry Kenya, East Africa is correct.

      Re: “3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. ”

      Answer: You are referring to two other hospitals. But, Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital DID exist in 1961.

      How do we know? Well, on WND’s site there are birth certificates for the Nordkye Twins, born one day after Obama in the same hospital, and what is the name of the hospital on their birth certificates? Answer: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.

      As for the last question, Obama’s book simply does not say that his father was in WWII. It says that his GRANDfather was in WWII, and his grandfather really was in WWII. Perhaps someone who told you this failed to see the GRAND in GRANDfather. But, it is there. Why not check these very simple things before posting???

      BTW, you also could check on the birther "research" that claims that Kapolani was not called "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital" in 1961. That is even more easy than getting Obama's book and looking whether it says father or grandfather. All that you have to do to check the claim (and for the matter to check the WND PROOF that Kapiolani was called Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital by showing the birth certificates of the Nordyke twins with that name on it) is simply to call the hospital, ask for the PR department and ASK. Here's the number: (808) 983-6000.

      BTW, the Kenyan government has investigated the "born in Kenya" story, and found that it is not true:



      http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …

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  11. There are four SCOTUS decisions that defined who a natural born citizen is.

    1. Obama’s father was a British citizen and not an American citizen at the time of Obama’s birth.
    2. In Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, the President is required to be a “natural born citizen,” the only place that phrase is used in the Constitution
    3. SCOTUS has ruled 4 times, which included defining who is a “natural born citizen.” Those rulings are:
    A. The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 (1814)
    B. Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 (1830)
    C. Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
    D. United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

    In each ruling, SCOTUS has defined “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” as follows (or similar language):
    “At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

    The term and definition of natural born citizens is derived from the book, “The Law of Nations,” written by Emmerich de Vattel, a Swiss-German philosopher of law, with which the founders were well familiar.

    Here is a link to a summary of the four cases and the historical basis for those rulings:
    http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/us_constitution/news.php?q=1308252582

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    1. I see you have done the same research I have done. I commend you on what you just wrote and agree with you wholeheartedly.

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    2. Re: "The term and definition of natural born citizens is derived from the book, “The Law of Nations,” written by Emmerich de Vattel, a Swiss-German philosopher of law, with which the founders were well familiar."

      Answer: Yes, they read his book. But, duh, THEY READ A LOT OF OTHER BOOKS TOO.

      Vattel is not even mentioned once in the Federalist Papers, not even once, while the common law is mentioned about twenty times, and always with praise. That is why the US Supreme Court in the Wong Kim Ark case ruled that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from THE COMMON LAW (not from Vattel), and that is why the US Supreme Court has ruled in the Wong Kim Ark case (which, BTW, was AFTER Minor v. Happersett, and hence would overturn it IF Minor v. Hapeprsett were even a ruling on the matter----which it isn't) that EVERY child born on US soil is a Natural Born US citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats and the children of members of invading enemy armies. That is why the Heritage Foundation book on the Constitution wrote:

      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      And that is why there have been ten appeals court rulings on the matter of Obama's eligibility, all of which birthers lost. Here are some of them:

      Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 – Appellate Court) ruling: “Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”

      Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012) ruling: “It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.”

      Purpura v. Obama (New Jersey 2012) ruling: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.”

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    3. Continuing:



      Voeltz v. Obama (Florida 2012) ruling: “However, the United States Supreme Court has concluded that ‘[e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States. ‘Other courts that have considered the issue in the context of challenges to the qualifications of candidates for the office of President of the United States have come to the same conclusion."

      Allen v. Obama (Arizona 2012) ruling: “Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, Arizona v. Jay J. Garfield Bldg. Co. , 39 Ariz. 45, 54, 3 P.2d 983, 986(1931), and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. … Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise.”


      Farrar (et al.) v. Obama (Georgia 2012) ruling: “In 2009, the Indiana Court of Appeals (“Indiana Court”) addressed facts and issues similar to those before this court. [Ankeny] v. Governor, 916 N.E.2d (Ind. Ct. App. 2009). … The Indiana Court rejected the argument that Mr. Obama was ineligible, stating that children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. … This Court finds the decision and analysis of [Ankeny] persuasive.”

      And on October 1, 2012, the US Supreme Court turned down an appeal of the last of the rulings shown above, the Farrar case, which had ruled that "children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents." By rejecting the appeal, the US Supreme Court allowed the ruling of the lower court to STAND.



      In addition to those rulings specifically on presidential eligibility, there are these:

      Mustata v. US Dept. of Justice, 179 F.3d 1017 (6th Cir. 1999) (children born in US to two Romanian citizens described as “natural born citizens” of the US):

      “Petitioners Marian and Lenuta Mustata are citizens of Romania. At the time of their petition, they resided in Michigan with their two minor children, who are natural born citizens of the United States.”

      Diaz-Salazar v. INS, 700 F.2d 1156 (7th Cir. 1983) (child born in US to Mexican citizen is “natural born citizen” of US):

      “Petitioner, Sebastian Diaz-Salazar, entered the United States illegally [from Mexico] in 1974 and has been living and working in Chicago since that time. *** The relevant facts which have been placed before the INS, BIA, and this court can be summarized as follows: The petitioner has a wife and two children under the age of three in Chicago; the children are natural-born citizens of the United States.”

      Nwankpa v. Kissinger, 376 F. Supp. 122 (M.D. Ala. 1974) (child born in US to two Biafra citizens described as “natural born citizen” of the US):

      “The Plaintiff was a native of Biafra, now a part of the Republic of Nigeria. His wife and two older children are also natives of that country, but his third child, a daughter, is a natural-born citizen of the United States.”
      That makes about 13 courts that I can cite easily that have ruled that the US born children of foreigners are Natural Born Citizens.


      More reading on the subject:

      http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/

      http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012

      http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/04/vattel-and-natural-born-citizen/



      http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html

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  12. Response to "smrstrauss"-- The term 'Natural Born Citizen' means more than just being born on U.S. soil. It is defined in an international law book called The Law of Nations, used by the Founding Fathers when they drafted our Constitution. The Law of Nations is actually mentioned in the Constitution itself (if you would read it). The other requirement to be a Natural Born Citizen is that BOTH parents must be U.S. Citizens at the time of the person's birth. Obama's father was NEVER a U.S. Citizen. Barack even says so in his autobiographical book. His father was Kenyan, a fact undisputed by Barack Obama.

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    1. Re: "It is defined in a international law book called the Law of Nations."

      Answer: Neither that book nor its author, Vattel, is mentioned in the Federalist Papers, so there is no evidence that the source of the term is from the book. In contrast, the Federalist Papers refers to the common law about twenty times, and most of the writers of the US Constitution were lawyers and justices who were steeped in the common law. Both the US Supreme Court in the Wong Kim Ark case and the Heritage Foundation book on the US Constitution say that the term comes from the common law and that it includes EVERY child born on US soil (except for the children of foreign diplomats and enemy invaders).

      To repeat, every child born on US soil---regardless of whether one parent or even two parents are not US citizens at the time.

      Here's what the Heritage Foundation book said:


      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      BTW,. ten or eleven appeals courts have all ruled that the term really was defined by the US Supreme Court and that the ruling really did say that EVERY child born on US soil (except for the children of foreign diplomats and enemy invaders) is a Natural Born Citizen.

      Some of the rulings are above.

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  13. Joe Arpaio has a BS, and MS, and a PHD.
    Bull Shit
    More of the Same
    Piled Higher and Deeper.

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    1. Indeed he has spouted plenty of bull:

      https://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2014/10/31/was-the-ccp-birth-certificate-investigation-pay-to-play/


      http://www.wfsb.com/story/27170194/birther-posse-chief-i-accepted-10000-gift-from-source


      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2014/09/arpaio-had-no-evidence-former-deputy-chief-says/

      http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2013/08/joe_arpaios_sham_investigation.php



      Oh, and this is what the National Review has been saying about Sheriff Joe for YEARS.

      http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors

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  14. HOW LONG ARE THEY GONNA WAIT? WE NEED TO REMOVE & JAIL THIS PHONY WITH ALL THOSE WHO DIDN"T VET HIM BEFORE +/OR INVESTIGATE HIM AFTER THE FACT. -- Stay Well, Safe & Free

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    1. Obama's birth in Hawaii has been proven by (1) his Hawaii birth certificate; (2) the repeated confirmation of their sending it to Obama and all the facts on it being the same as what they sent by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii; (3) the public Index Data file; (4) the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and ONLY the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the papers, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii); (5) the Hawaii teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after hearing of the birth of a child to a woman NAMED STANLEY from the head of obstetrics at Kapiolani Hospital; (6) the INS inspector who checked on Obama's father's residence status and wrote: "They have one child, born in HONOLULU."

      (See the links above.)


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