Monday, January 26, 2015

The Obama Birth Certificate Controversy Rears Its Head Again

The issue just won't go away and Barack Obama is none-too-happy that the fraud he is perpetuating on the American people may wind up tarnishing his precious legacy.




(WND) Barack Obama has been focusing more and more, including in his 2015 State of the Union Tuesday, on what pundits describe as legacy issues.

He may envision a legacy 20 or 30 years after his White House tenure of a Web-oriented, Washington-centric health care system that efficiently dispatches what system managers believe people need for health care – a quick abortion, dietary rules or a painkiller for a terminal disease.

In that future, he may hope, as a result of his executive amnesty, for a new Hispanic majority that routinely gives the Democratic Party power as the GOP fades into oblivion.

He may even visualize little plaques on community college campuses across the 50 states noting that Americans are attending for free in exchange for mandatory public service, because of the work of President Barack Obama.

But it’s doubtful he’s rejoicing in the fact that it was his presidency that raised the issue of constitutional eligibility to headlines, courts and congressional debate, and possibly even a ruling from the Supreme Court.

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37 comments:

  1. I have a Legacy for him. The First Muslim Brother Hood Member, to be President of the United States, and what it use to Stand for. He was, still is, and will always be a TRAITOR to the American people, to our Christian Population, to our Military, to our Allies, to the Minorities of this country, that will be, is, and always will remain his Legacy. And with him, all the Democrats who are far left, Patty Murray, Boxer, Rid, Peloski, Fienstien, Kerry, all his Muslim Brother Hood buddies he appointed to government offices, agencies and jobs, last throw in all the illegals that should go home.

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    1. Pita, I agree with you 100% I could not have said it any better than this. Thank you.

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    2. You have the right to your opinion. But Obama is certainly not a Muslim---he eats ham and barbecue and drinks whiskey and eats lunch during Ramadan and does not pray facing Mecca, and he and his children are baptized Christians, and he has referred to Christ as "our Savior" in the National Prayer Day speech, and said that Christ was resurrected----none of which a Muslim would do.

      And his birth certificate is not forged. Birthers just keep saying that it is forged-----now, I wonder why they would do that??

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-shows-obama-birth-certificate-artifacts-caused-by-xerox-machine-no-joy-in-birtherville/

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    3. Pita, No one could have said it better.
      This Muslim Brotherhood "president" is the worst thing to hit the United States in it's history. Americans rise up to defeat this atrocity.

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    4. Obama is not a Muslim. See above. And he kills Muslims with drone strikes and his administration has asked for the death penalty against the accused Boston Marathon bomber, a Muslim.

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    5. Obama's behavior toward Islam makes him extremely simpatico with Islam. Whether he subscribes to the particulars of Islam or not is a moot point since his overall actions have destabilized the Middle East in favor of jihadists. Perhaps you haven't noticed?

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    6. I'm with you all the way, in everything, Pita.

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    7. Obama practices taqiyya, which allows him to do and say anything to further the implementation of Islam. The fact that he claims to be a Christian, even though Jeremiah Wright is also a "former" Muslim, and preaches black liberation theology, which is closer to Marxism than Christianity. Obama is a Muslim, and has at least 6 members of the Muslim Brotherhood in his administration, in sensitive positions, who are undermining our national security. It is appalling that Obama, and Muslim apologists are willing to blind themselves to the danger this country faces from the enemy within

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    8. Re: "Obama practices taqiyya, which allows him to do and say anything..."

      Answer: It is dumb to think that taqiyya allows Muslims to do more than they have to do to appear to be non-Muslims. For example, they can say that theya are not Muslims---but they do not have to say that Christ is "our Savior"---or that Christ was resurrected, and Obama has done both. In addition, Obama and his wife and his daughters are all baptized.

      And since he has never been noticed to pray facing Mecca nor fast during Ramadan---your claim that he is a Muslim is a fantasy.

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    9. More, though he may not be a closet Musselman, he sides with anyone or any philosophy which is designed to destroy the United States. After all, look at what he advocates: reduction of the military, destruction of the family, elimination of morals in society, sovereign central government, civil rights only for his "preferred groups," limits on the freedom of speech and the creation of an fully indoctrinated youth in an unarmed society. WIth these goals, he will eliminate the United States and the experiment in personal responsibility and liberty will be reduced to a footnote in history.

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    10. Obama's new budget calls for AN INCREASE IN MILITARY SPENDING.

      As for the rest it is the usual right wing crap. In any case, just saying "I do not like Obama" is not proof that he is a Muslim.

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  2. I am sick and tired of hearing about his forged birth certificate. What I want to know when is something going to be done about it? Actions speak louder than words. And for the past several years, all we've heard are words and no action.

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    1. Action would have been taken years ago, had the American people supported those who are actively engaged in uncovering it.
      For years now the people who have the evidence have been begging the American people to demand congress open a Congressional Hearing on the matter.

      What do they get................nothing!

      Congress needs to feel the pressure from the public or they won't act.

      What does the public do.................................nothing!
      They wait for someone else to do it, then wonder why congress doesn't do anything.

      How many letters and phone calls have you made to support the, "Cold Case Posy," NONE, I'll bet!

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Maricopa-County-Sheriffs-Office-Cold-Case-Posse/297725046907681

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    2. It's not forged. Birthers just keep saying that it is forged. Now, I wonder why they do that?

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    3. Birther sites have not shown you these real experts:

      Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

      Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

      John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

      Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily: “All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

      Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

      Nor have they ever answered this:

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-shows-obama-birth-certificate-artifacts-caused-by-xerox-machine-no-joy-in-birtherville/

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  3. Well done Pita. I only hope and pray that the supreme court, just this one time, will find him guilty as an imposter. He should then be put in jail for life. We don't want to deport him to the hell hole he come from because he would just attempt the same tactics he using to destroy our country. I cant think of a punishment good enough for this A----.

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    1. Obama is not an imposter. He really was born in Hawaii and hence really is a Natural Born US citizen.

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    2. Any idiot Obama supporter will tell you that, but ask black actor Harry Lennix who Obama really is? in an interview he did with Mancow Muller that later was Con'd on infowars.com with Alex Jones.

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    3. Here is a little of the evidence---and this is just a little, there is considerably more:


      Here are the confirmations of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, repeated confirmations (and by the way, the one to the secretary of state of Arizona, a conservative Republican, was ACCEPTED by the secretary of state of Arizona, who then put Obama on the ballot):

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/heres-the-birth-certificate/


      Here is the confirmation by the former governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican (and a friend of Sarah Palin’s), that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital:

      http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html

      Here is the statement of the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after being told of birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, of a child to a woman named Stanley:

      http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don%27t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm

      Here are the birth notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961:

      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php

      (And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)

      Here is the Index Data file:

      http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html

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  4. Do you really think the left is going to let him be impeached .?

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  5. No I do not think he will be impeached. He needs to be arrested and charged with Treason for the things he has don to our country

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    1. I agree with you, only a legal potus can be impeached. Since he is NOT legal, the proper course IS arrest & prosecution. All those who assisted in this farce should also be arrested.

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    2. Obama's is the legal POTUS, and you have the right to ask your congressman and senators to impeach----and they have the right to ignore you.

      Every child born on US soil is a Natural Born US citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats, and Obama's birth on US soil has been proven by (1) his Hawaii birth certificate; (2) the repeated confirmation of their sending it to Obama and all the facts on it being the same as what they sent by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii; (3) the public Index Data file; (4) the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and ONLY the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the papers, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii); (5) the Hawaii teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after hearing of the birth of a child to a woman NAMED STANLEY from the head of obstetrics at Kapiolani Hospital; (6) the INS inspector who checked on Obama's father's residence status and wrote: "They have one child, born in HONOLULU."


      Here are the confirmations of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, repeated confirmations (and by the way, the one to the secretary of state of Arizona, a conservative Republican, was ACCEPTED by the secretary of state of Arizona, who then put Obama on the ballot):

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/heres-the-birth-certificate/


      Here is the confirmation by the former governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican (and a friend of Sarah Palin’s), that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital:

      http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html

      Here is the statement of the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after being told of birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, of a child to a woman named Stanley:

      http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don%27t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm

      Here are the birth notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961:

      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php

      (And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)

      Here is the Index Data file:

      http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html

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    3. Sorry but you are wrong - not every child born on US soil is a Natural Born Citizen but they are Native Born Citizens. In order to be eligible for the presidency the child must be a Natural Born Citizen, a requirement of our US Constitution, meaning that both parents must be US Citizens at the time of the child's birth. Hence, we have a congress that completely ignored this including obama who supposedly taught the Constitution. NOT SO. Same applies to Cruz, Rubio and Jindal and non of them are eligible and refuse to acknowledge this.

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    4. The US Supreme Court has ruled in the Wong Kim Ark case (six justices to two justices, one justice not voting) that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and that it means citizenship at birth and that EVERY child born on US soil is a Natural Born Citizen. Repeat EVERY CHILD---yes, including Anchor Babies.

      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
      Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 – Appellate Court) ruling: “Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”

      Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012) ruling: “It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.”

      Purpura v. Obama (New Jersey 2012) ruling: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.”

      Voeltz v. Obama (Florida 2012) ruling: “However, the United States Supreme Court has concluded that ‘[e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States. ‘Other courts that have considered the issue in the context of challenges to the qualifications of candidates for the office of President of the United States have come to the same conclusion."

      Allen v. Obama (Arizona 2012) ruling: “Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, Arizona v. Jay J. Garfield Bldg. Co. , 39 Ariz. 45, 54, 3 P.2d 983, 986(1931), and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. … Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise.”


      Farrar (et al.) v. Obama (Georgia 2012) ruling: “In 2009, the Indiana Court of Appeals (“Indiana Court”) addressed facts and issues similar to those before this court. [Ankeny] v. Governor, 916 N.E.2d (Ind. Ct. App. 2009). … The Indiana Court rejected the argument that Mr. Obama was ineligible, stating that children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. … This Court finds the decision and analysis of [Ankeny] persuasive.”

      And on October 1, 2012, the US Supreme Court turned down an appeal of the last of the rulings shown above, the Farrar case, which had ruled that "children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents." By rejecting the appeal, the US Supreme Court allowed the ruling of the lower court to STAND.

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  6. The voters and corrupt congress/administration allowed this to happen to our nation that is waking up too late , ISIS and Jihad cells through out our nation are waiting for activation all planned by the idiot Muslim in WH from the beginning, why do you think all depts stockpiled ammo ? If you think armor vehicles are for our protection think again ,militarization of police , its about civil unrest, planned FEMA death camps , food shortages , national panic, list goes on. Civilians will be nations first line of defense, think about EMP attack or SOLAR.That will cripple this country in hours - nothing will work. .R U PREPARED ??

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  7. don't prove that He is an imposter... think what would happen if this were true? We would have people from all over the world trying to buy the presidency... you know like Sorros (sp?) who was instrumental in the Missouri riots; in paying thousands of dollars brining in rioters. Look that up.

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  8. Whether or not Obama is legitimate, we know he is a liar, a hypocrite and an arrogant man maniacally and obsessively focused on total control.

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  9. The Democrat Party troll on this blog keep saying that Obama's birth certificate is real ? One doesn't even have to be an expert to see that it's a fake. The first thing to to look at is compare each letter from A to Z. You will see that three different styles of type were used. Now why would a real birth certificate be filled out with three different type writers? Secondly, the paper that the photo shopped fake was printed on was a background that wasn't introduced until 2001 when the short digital certificates were introduced. Third, the photo shopped lettering have one byte of white around the imported information. Now why would that be? Fourth, the past Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombe officially said that there was no birth certificate in Obama's file at the Dept. of Health. Fifth...Obama's hospital record in what is now Kenya is sealed. Why would Obama even have a hospital recored in Kenya? Sixth...there is no hospital in Hawaii of Obama being born there? The Obama handlers did sent a letter of congradulations to the Kapiolani Hospital (where I was born) praising them for being the birthplace of Obama. That letter was posted on the entrance wall. When Kapiolani Hospital was asked to prove that Obama was born there, the letter came down. Interesting, huh? "Experts" on the left are trying to obfuscate the obvious fact that the certificate is fake. Then there is the matter of Obama's fake Social Securty number which belongs to a man who died before Obama was born, and in a State where Obama never was? *Obama's grandmother worked in the Social Security office. Then there is the fake Selective Service card with the proven fake date stamp. When investigators mentioned that they were going to check the Selective Service records for Obama's name, within a few days those records which would have included Obama's card "were destroyed because the files needed cleaning of unnecessary out-of-date documents". Same with the passport records covering the week that Obama was born. Only those records covering the two weeks Obama's mother traveled to Mombasa are missing. No other passport records are missing from the computer system. Coincidence? I doubt it. And the most damming thinge of all is the crazy Hawaii law in effect since before the year 1900 that allows a birth certificate be issued to someone not even born there! All the parent has to do is prove to have been living in Hawaii for the year prior to birth (anywhere) to have a Hawaii birth certificate issued to the child born somewhere else? The form would be in the file, but no hospital record. Also, why has Obama maintained three legal firms to seek legal actions to keep all of his past history sealed? What does he have to hide? Is it the fact that he was raised in a family of Communists? Is it because he always associated with other Communists? Is it because he was registered as a foreign student in school? What is he hiding that he has spent tens of thousands of dollars keeping his records hidden? There has been no other president like Barack Obama. When you can understand that Barack Obama hates what this country stands for, you will then have a better understanding of his socialistic polities.

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    1. Birther sites have not shown you these real experts (I wonder why not???):

      Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

      Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

      John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

      Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily: “All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

      Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

      And they have not answered this---which, BTW, explains all the alleged "anomalies" discussed above. (BTW, Obama's birth certificate is on SECURITY PAPER. Did birther sites tell you---or didn't you know?---that security paper is designed to cause anomalies?)

      In any case, birther sites have never explained this, which in turn deals with most of the "anomalies" (others being caused by manual typewriters that skip and of course security paper):

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-shows-obama-birth-certificate-artifacts-caused-by-xerox-machine-no-joy-in-birtherville/

      More importantly, birthers have created the myth (which they have never explained) that Obama's birth certificate has been forged despite all the facts on it being precisely the same as what the DOH of Hawaii has sent to him. The officials in Hawaii of both parties have repeatedly stated that ALL the facts on Obama's birth certificate are exactly the same as what they sent to him. Birthers respond either that all the officials (including the former Republican governor of Hawaii) are lying, or that the birth certificate was forged despite all the facts being the same as what was sent (which is truly nutty).

      Here are the confirmations of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, repeated confirmations (and by the way, the one to the secretary of state of Arizona, a conservative Republican, was ACCEPTED by the secretary of state of Arizona, who then put Obama on the ballot):

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/heres-the-birth-certificate/


      Here is the confirmation by the former governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican (and a friend of Sarah Palin’s), that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital:

      http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html


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  10. The chief moo-slum does not care about legacy. He was put in the Whitehouse to destroy the U.S. The inability of the public, and the Congress, to understand this will allow him to accomplish the mission assigned to him. Once he puts exec order 13603 in operation he will have accomplished his assignment.

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    1. Obama was elected president of the USA. Your not liking him does not change that fact. He is not a Muslim---but people on the far right claim that he is (now, I wonder why they would do that??)

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  11. It's amazing how the trolls continually try to persuade patriots of the vile despot's Christianity and state birth certificate, LOL!
    Most know the bogus potus has no legitimate bc. He's a muslim, Kenyan born
    The leftist troll needs to get back to your own party instead of monitoring conservative sites.
    The US Communist Party BOASTS of it's workings through the lefts Democratic party.
    www.thenewamerica.com/usnews/politics /item /19997-to-u-s-communist-party-utilizes-demoocrats

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    1. Too bad, anonymous, it is the facts that show the situation. "Trolls" cannot do that. Only facts can. To start off with the allegation that Obama does not have a state birth certificate:

      Here are the confirmations of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, repeated confirmations (and by the way, the one to the secretary of state of Arizona, a conservative Republican, was ACCEPTED by the secretary of state of Arizona, who then put Obama on the ballot):

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/heres-the-birth-certificate/


      Here is the confirmation by the former governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican (and a friend of Sarah Palin’s), that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital:

      http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html

      Here is the statement of the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after being told of birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, of a child to a woman named Stanley:

      http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don%27t%20Miss %20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm

      Here are the birth notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961:

      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php

      (And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)

      Here is the Index Data file:

      http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html

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    2. Continuing:


      And now the allegation that it is forged. Well, first, since the officials above state that the facts on the published copies of Obama's birth certificate MATCH (that being the word that they used) the facts on what they sent to him, they would have to be lying (and remember they included the former Republican governor, a strong supporter of Sarah Palin's) for Obama's birth certificate to be forged.

      Then, well, if there were anything to the claim that Obama's birth certificate was forged, birthers would show the experts who say that it is not forged and dispute their findings, rather than not show them to their readers at all. BUT, birther sites have never showed their readers these real experts:

      Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

      Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

      John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

      Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily: “All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

      Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

      And birthers certainly have not answered this:

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-shows-obama-birth-certificate-artifacts-caused-by-xerox-machine-no-joy-in-birtherville/

      So the FACTS show that Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate, and the facts shown on it MATCH (are the same as) what Hawaii sent to him. And it is not forged. Those are the facts.

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    3. Continuing. So the above facts show that Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate, and the facts match, and it was not forged. Is that the same thing as showing that Obama was born in Hawaii?

      Legally, it is. But for those who still doubt----it is up to THEM to answer this question:

      For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

      (1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank [she did not become a vice president until 1970], and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

      (2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

      (3) Obama’s relative would have had to have gotten the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, Obama’s relatives would have had to have found one of the very few women in Hawaii with fathers of that name to do it).


      (Oh, and there isn’t even proof that Obama’s mother had a passport in 1961, and very very few 18-year-olds did, and EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in 1961 because of the risk of stillbirths. Yet birther sites hope that a few GULLIBLE people will just assume that she was one of the few to have a passport and one of the extremely few women to travel abroad late in pregnancy, and that the birth certificate is forged and the officials of BOTH parties who have confirmed it and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers and the teacher who wrote home are all lying. )

      So the facts show that Obama has a birth certificate from Hawaii, and the facts on it MATCH what was sent, and it was not forged----and the chance that Obama's mother was in any other place than Hawaii when he was born are like about one in a ZILLION.

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  12. Finally, "Muslim."

    Well, it's not rational to conclude on the basis of YOUR not liking someone that he is a Muslim. You say---see, he did not something I do not like, so he must be a Muslim. But that's not evidence. That's just saying: "See, he did something, or something more, that I do not like."

    Obama eats HAM sandwiches, and he drinks WHISKEY (both of which Muslims are not allowed), and he has never been noticed to pray facing Mecca five times a day or fast during Ramadan (in fact, he had former president George H. W. Bush over for lunch during Ramadan). And, he has called Christ "our SAVIOR" during the National Prayer Breakfast, and said that Christ had risen from the dead-----which would be anathema to a Muslim. And he and his wife and his daughters were all baptized Christian-----so there is plenty of evidence that he is NOT a Muslim.

    To be sure, he has a Muslim middle name, Hussein---but so what? There are people whose middle names were named for Christian saints who became agnostics and atheists and Protestants. So, so what, about the name. And his father was actually an Atheist, not a Muslim.

    So there is no EVIDENCE that Obama is a Muslim, and just saying that "see, he did something that I do not like" is only saying: "I don't like that." It is not proof that Obama (or anyone you don't like) is a Muslim.

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Posted By: Chris Carmouche