Thursday, April 3, 2014

[Video] Congressman Hires PI To Investigate Obama Birth Certificate Fraud?

So says reporter Peter Boyles. You'll hear about it starting at 2:45 but listen to the entire report as Boyles also gives some juicy nuggets about why Bill O'Reilly and FOX News have squelched reports and promoted misinformation on the Obama Birth Certificate controversy and the latest on the status of Sheriff Joe Arpaio's investigation.




55 comments:

  1. Re: Sheriff Joe, Zullo, and the Cold Case Posse:


    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2014/03/banned-birther-breaks-br-censorship-barrier/

    http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/brian-reilly-spilling-the-beans-on-zullo/

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    1. smrstrauss been sleeping with obama and he is drunk on kool aide demonrat go have another drink obama is and was born in Kenya if you woke up you would actually realize that obama is not american citizen and never will be.

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    2. Obama has shown both his Hawaii short-form BC (the Certification of Live Birth, COLB, which is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people to get their US passports every year), and he has shown his long form Hawaii BC. And the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii----including the former REPUBLICAN governor of Hawaii (a friend of Sarah Palin’s)----have repeatedly confirmed that they sent them to him, and that all the facts, repeat ALL the facts are exactly the same, repeat, EXACTLY the same, as what they sent to him. And Obama's birth in Hawaii in 1961 is also confirmed by the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii (and ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to that section of the newspapers, the "Health Bureau Statistics" section, where Obama's birth notice was published, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii).

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    3. The COLB, and the computer birth certificate is a fraud. Why can't we see the actual physical BC document for a forensic investigation. Answer: it doesn't exist.

      This fool should be kicked out of office.
      "IS MR. CHARLES EVANS HUGHES A “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” WITHIN THE MEANING OF THE CONSTITUTION? A Legal Examination of the Subject by Breckinridge Long, of the St.Louis Bar

      [...]

      Hughes and his parents continued to reside in this country? Their domicile affected his citizenship. Had they taken him back to England, he would not have been considered by the government of the United States as a citizen of the United States. The mere circumstances that he continued to live here, and,upon the attainment of his majority, to exercise his political rights perfected the inchoate citizenship which he inherited by the naturalization of his father.Only from the time of the actual naturalization of his father was reconsidered to be a citizen of the United States, and only upon the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment did he actually become a citizen of the United States.

      [...]

      Particularly is this so in view of the declaration of Mr. Porter, Acting Secretary of State, under date of September 14th, 1885, when he says: “By the law of nations an infant child partakes of his father’s nationality and domicile.”

      http://www.scribd.com/doc/29795435/IS-M ... N%E2%80%9D

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    4. Re: "The COLB, and the computer birth certificate is a fraud. Why can't we see the actual physical BC document for a forensic investigation. Answer: it doesn't exist."

      When the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii say that they sent copies to Obama, it does exist.

      But, you raise a good question---why can't you see the physical copy. Because, wait for it, no birther site has ASKED to see the physical copy. They have sued to get the physical copy---but since they do not have a RIGHT to see the physical copy Hawaii fought them. But they did not ASK politely to see it. Why not?

      Because, duh, if the did, and the took it to real document specialists like the members of the American Board of Forensic Document Examiners or the American Society of Questioned Document Experts or the Association of Forensic Document Examiners, they would lose---and lose badly. And the birther movement, from which some sites and officials actually make money, would be over.

      Re your quotation on the meaning of Natural Born Citizen status:

      Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling: “Those born “in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency..." (No mention of parents)

      Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Indiana 2008 – Appellate Court) ruling: “Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”

      Tisdale v. Obama (Virginia federal court 2012) ruling: “It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.” (No mention of parents.)

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    5. Continuing:

      Purpura v. Obama (New Jersey 2012) ruling: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.” (No mention of parents affecting the matter.)

      Voeltz v. Obama (Florida 2012) ruling: “However, the United States Supreme Court has concluded that ‘[e]very person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States. ‘Other courts that have considered the issue in the context of challenges to the qualifications of candidates for the office of President of the United States have come to the same conclusion." (No mention of parents.)

      Allen v. Obama (Arizona 2012) ruling: “Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, Arizona v. Jay J. Garfield Bldg. Co. , 39 Ariz. 45, 54, 3 P.2d 983, 986(1931), and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. … Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise.” (No mention of parents.)


      Farrar (et al.) v. Obama (Georgia 2012) ruling: “In 2009, the Indiana Court of Appeals (“Indiana Court”) addressed facts and issues similar to those before this court. [Ankeny] v. Governor, 916 N.E.2d (Ind. Ct. App. 2009). … The Indiana Court rejected the argument that Mr. Obama was ineligible, stating that children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. … This Court finds the decision and analysis of [Ankeny] persuasive.”

      And on October 1, 2012, the US Supreme Court turned down an appeal of the last of the rulings shown above, the Farrar case, which had ruled that "children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents." By rejecting the appeal, the US Supreme Court allowed the ruling of the lower court to STAND.

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    6. Why is LORRAINE FUDDY, who was about to EXPOSE the Hawaiian BC as F A K E, Dead - the ONLY passenger on the plane who Died??

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    7. She was also the only passenger over the age of 65---and she did not look very fit for a long swim. But, take a leap of imagination and assume that the police in Hawaii were lying when they said that she died of an irregular heartbeat. Say that she was murdered---consider that the detective story of the day. So, since she was murdered in this story, what makes you, the detective, just ASSUME that it was Obama? It could have been a jilted lover or someone she was about to cut out of her will or a big drug company that Fuddy, the director of health, was about to investigate. Yet you ASSUME that it must have been Obama. Why?

      Fuddy was just one of FOUR officials who confirmed Obama's birth certificate including the former Republican governor of Hawaii (a friend of Sarah Palin's), and all three of the others are still alive. And Obama's birth in Hawaii is also confirmed by the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii back in 1961 (and only the DOH could send birth notices to that section
      of the paper, called the "Health Bureau Statistics" section, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii).

      So, if she were murdered (which is unlikely and the police in Hawaii say that he died from an irregular heartbeat as I said, but say that she had been murdered) then the motive for the murder could have been that she was about to cut someone out of her will or a jilted lover did it, or she was about to investigate a major drug company. All of those motives are just as strong as the notion that Obama killed ONE of four officials who confirmed his birth certificate----when there isn't even a shred of a hint that she was going to change her story and to NOT confirm it.

      Repeat, there isn't a hint of a shred of a particle of a glimmer of a rumor that Fuddy was about to change her story,and as I have shown, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE that Obama could have been born anywhere else than in Hawaii.

      (See below.)

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  2. The reason that Fox News does not report on the birther myth is that Fox News, along with other rational people, does not believe in the birther myth. It is a fantasy, and in fact such a thing is nearly impossible to have happened.



    For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

    (1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank [she did not become a vice president until 1970], and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

    (2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

    (3) Obama’s relative would have had to have gotten the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, Obama’s relatives would have had to have found one of the very few women in Hawaii with fathers of that name to do it).

    If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.

    So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?

    (Oh, and there isn’t even proof that Obama’s mother had a passport in 1961, and very very few 18-year-olds did, and EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in 1961 because of the risk of stillbirths. Yet birther sites hope that a few GULLIBLE people will just assume that she was one of the few to have a passport and one of the extremely few women to travel abroad late in pregnancy, and that the birth certificate is forged and the officials of BOTH parties who have confirmed it and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers and the teacher who wrote home are all lying. )

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    1. Really what planet did you come from? It's been proven obozo wasn't born here. It's been proven he was in Indonesia when the United States forbid travel to that communist country. It's been proven that his college papers were saturated with "foreign student" why so he could get money. It's been proven he hasn't worked a day in his miserable life. It's been proven that he is a traitor. It's been proven that he hates this country. And this will really blow you away. He isn't the first black president. His the first mulatto or half breed fake president this country has ever had. Besides that bill Clinton was the first black president. Just ask him.

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    2. That's all well and good. I certainly don't know where Obama was born. However, this does NOT explain the fake birth certificate WHICH IT CLEARLY IS!

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    3. Obama's birth certificate is not fake. Birthers simply claim that it is, and they do so over and over and over again. You, for example, say "it clearly is"---but it isn't. Birther sites simply told you that it was. For example, they told you that there was "kerning"---but there is no kerning. And they told you "you see, there are layers"---but layers are normal in PDF; that is how it works. In other words, Obama's birth certificate is not "clearly fake." It is not fake at all.

      Only birther “experts” have called Obama’s birth certificate forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

      One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

      Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

      And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

      Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

      Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

      John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

      Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

      Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

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      Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him. That is also why they lied when they said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya, when she really said that he was born IN HAWAII.

      Also, the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.

      Moreover, since it is so obvious that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, and so obvious that Hawaii sent him the short form and long form BC, and since the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly stated that the facts on Obama's long form BC are exactly the same as on what they sent to him, then it is nutty to believe birther sites (which have lied so many times in the past) when they say: "Obama's birth certificate is forged." They are simply lying, as the did when they said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother (step-grandmother actually) said that Obama was born in Kenya. (She actually said repeatedly that he was born IN HAWAII; birther sites simply did not quote her and cut off the tape recordings on their sites just before she was asked where he was born----to which she replied: "In Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time.")

      Re: "It's been proven obozo wasn't born here..."

      Answer: Once again, no such thing was proven.

      Re: "It's been proven he was in Indonesia when the United States forbid travel to that communist country. "

      Answer: Baloney.

      Re: " It's been proven that his college papers were saturated with "foreign student"...."

      Answer: That comes from AN APRIL FOOL'S article originally published on April 1, 2009----are you in the habit of believing April Fool's articles. (And, besides, there has never been a shred of evidence to confirm the story.)

      Re: "why so he could get money. It's been proven he hasn't worked a day in his miserable life."

      Answer: He worked for Baskin Robbins and for Business International Corp. before becoming a community organizer and going to Harvard Law School.

      Re "mulatto"---yes he is racially mixed, so what?

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    5. Drink your kool aid and be happy sucker.

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    6. Notice that Anonymous has not responded to the facts shown above? (I wonder why not???)

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    7. The only question to ask is "Why have all records concerning obama been sealed by a battalion of lawyers and protected from public scrutiny at a cost of millions?"

      Got an answer?

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    8. Re: "Got an answer?"

      Of course. That is just one of the STANDARD birther lies.

      See LIE number 9.

      (1) Birthers said that Obama's draft card was forged, but Obama did not post his draft card, nor did any representative of Obama---so who do you think forged it? (Okay, I'll make it easy---the guy who posted it.)

      (2) Birthers said that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia---but a telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy shows that he was never an Indonesian citizen. Why do you suppose that the birthers did not call the Indonesian embassy to check?

      (3) Birthers said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya---but the transcript of the call shows that she said that he was BORN IN HAWAII---why do you suppose they did not quote her accurately and in fact cut off the tape recording of the call on their sites just before she said "born in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Why do you suppose they did that?

      (4) Birther sites did not tell you about SS Administration clerks making lots of mistakes and that a single digit entered wrong in the zip code would generated a SS number from a place other than where it was applied from. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

      (5) Birther sites did not tell their readers that the Kenyan government said that Obama was NOT born there. Why do you suppose they did not tell their readers that?

      (6) Birther sites did not even tell their readers that there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961---or how very few 18-year-olds did in those days, or how EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in those days because of the high risk of stillbirth. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

      (7) Birther sites posted videos of Obama that claimed to show that he said "I was born in Kenya"---but you cannot see his mouth move and the originals of those videos have been found, and they do not say "I was born in Kenya.."" Why do you suppose that they forged and posted those videos? (Ditto, by the way, for three forged "Kenyan birth certificates." And what do you suppose was the motive for forging them??)

      (8) Birther sites said Obama spent “millions” on hiding his birth certificate. But Obama showed his birth certificate and did not spend a cent on hiding anything. And in fact, as birther sites did not tell their readers, there wasn’t even one lawsuit for Obama’s birth certificate or for records, not one. There were lawsuits to keep Obama off of ballots, but NO lawsuits for his birth certificate or records of any kind. Why do you suppose that birther sites implied that there were lawsuits for Obama's BC---when there weren't ANY???

      (9) Birther sites said that Obama’s records are “sealed,” but they are not sealed. They are covered under the ordinary state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain and previous presidents did not release similar records either.

      And (10) the constant repetition ‘the birth certificates are forged,” and “anyone can see that the birth certificates are forged”---are all birther lies too. And they have the same motives as the lies shown above.

      Birthers have not shown all the real experts who have said that there is nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, nor have they told the readers on birther sites that the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the birth certificates to Obama and confirmed ALL the facts on the copy that the White House put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him. And they have not explained the research on the Xerox Workstation either:

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-shows-obama-birth-certificate-artifacts-caused-by-xerox-machine-no-joy-in-birtherville/

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    9. There is a very simple test to see whether the Kenyan birth certificate is false. There is a baby footprint on the birth certificate. That would show the same as finger prints. Why won't Obama allow them to print his foot and compare? I think there is a baby foot on his Hawaii. Ifd they both how him to e the bay i would go with Kenyan one. It looks old, not something just made. the Kenyon grandmother also gave details of the day he was born, they were at the beach when his mother went into labor. She had the baby and 3 days LATER she went to Hawaii and reported a live birth at home in Hawaii!! Don't forget her parents were devote communists that did not like the US and were unhappy when Hawaii became a state.And his scholarship was one that was gave only to foreign students! In a nut shell he wasn't vetted very well if at all. It is a lot of time developing a lie to smear him if it isn't true. He (and his wife)has shown his disdain for the US, which makes him a traitor running for president with that kind of attitude.

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    10. Re: "Why won't Obama allow them to print his foot and compare?"

      Because Obama's birth in Hawaii is nearly as certain as 2+3=5, and it would be STUPID to have the president's foot printed and compared with a copy of a FORGED "Kenyan birth certificate" that was shown by, wait for it, a convicted felon---one of whose crimes was forgery-----who claimed that he got the "birth certificate in Kenya" but has constantly refused to show any evidence that he had even been to Kenya.

      There is no baby footprint on the official birth certificate of Hawaii---either the short form or the long form, but the officials of Hawaii of BOTH parties (including the former REPUBLICAN governor---a friend of Sarah Palin's) have repeatedly stated that they sent the birth certificate to Obama and that all the facts on the copy that the White House put online are exactly the same as on what they sent to him.

      Re: "Kenyon grandmother also gave details of the day he was born..."

      Answer: Obama's Kenyan grandmother (step-grandmother actually) said repeatedly that Obama was BORN IN HAWAII. Birther sites simply did not quote her and cut off the tape recordings on their sites just before she was asked where he was born---her answer was "in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." (Now, I wonder why birther sites lied about that? And I wonder why they cut off the tape recordings on their sites before she was asked where he was born? I wonder). Would you like to see the transcript.

      Re: "She had the baby and 3 days LATER she went to Hawaii and reported a live birth at home in Hawaii!! "

      Dream on. Only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961---want to see the US Immigration and Naturalization Service report for fiscal 1961? And that INS report says that of the 21, all but one came by SHIP---so the "3 days later" stuff is complete crap, and BTW, even for births at home Hawaii required some kind of proof that the child was born in Hawaii before issuing a BC that said that the child was born in Hawaii. Proof like the statement of the doctor or midwife or in an emergency some other witness.

      Re: "And his scholarship was one that was gave only to foreign students!"

      Answer: That story comes from an APRIL FOOL'S article originally published on April 1, 2009. Are you in the habit of believing April Fool's articles? (And, BTW, there has never been a shred of evidence to confirm it.)

      Re "disdain for the USA."

      That is your opinion and your are entitled to it, but it does not show that Obama was born in a foreign country or that his birth certificate is forged or that he is not a Natural Born Citizen. The US Congress confirmed Obama's election UNANIMOUSLY twice, after both the 2008 and 2012 elections---and that included the votes of Rep. Michele Bachmann and Rep. Ron Paul---so not one of them agrees with the loony birther idea that Obama was born in a foreign country or the crazy birther constitutional theory that two citizen parents are required for a US-born child to be a Natural Born Citizen.

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    11. There are reasons to believe that Barack Obama Sr. is not his father. If so, then the other arguments would seem moot.
      The birth certificate shown by the Hawaiian HD has certain proof of its fraudulent creation in the data layers, as observed by countless technology experts.

      Even the governor of Hawaii has stated publicly that his office searched for the original BC and it was never found. He promised but could not produce a document other than the forged electronic version. So he shut up.

      There are fifty ballot applications for Obama to be listed as the Democratic candidate made by the DNC in 2008 signed by Nancy Pelosi, its chairman at that time. All of these documents were altered to remove, for the first time in American history, the phrase stating that Mr. Barack Obama was qualified to be President according to the US Constitution. These docs have been available for voters to view prior to the last election. Did he repeat the same deception this time?

      Needless to say, there is nothing that proves his American citizenship and plenty of truth to believe he is not qualified. First being that his father was never an American citizen, meaning he cannot be a natural born American citizen qualified under the constitution to serve as President or VP.

      There is solid evidence that he was adopted by an Indonesian citizen and his mother no longer listed him on her American passport when he returned to live in Hawaii. It is likely that he became a citizen of Indonesia at that time as he was enrolled as a citizen in a local school there. When did he ever re-instate his American citizenship?
      He travelled to Pakistan when Americans were banned from travelling there. So, it is likely that he used a passport of another nation, probably Indonesia which is a predominantly Moslem nation, seen as friendly to Pakistan.
      The lies go on and on.

      Why should we believe he is American and eligible to be President when there is no proof and his lawyers have hidden the evidence and fought every effort to expose it to the courts.
      Why is it that judges presiding in these cases always seem to run for cover from this case that has had several excellent lawyers with good arguments presenting it?

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    12. Re: "...proof of its fraudulent creation in the data layers, as observed by countless technology experts."

      Answer: Birther sites have found some people who hate Obama and who are willing to claim that they are "experts" and to lie about Obama's birth certificate being forged. Layers, BTW, are normal in pdf---that is how it works. Other "anomalies" are explained by the way that the Xerox WorkCentre works:

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-shows-obama-birth-certificate-artifacts-caused-by-xerox-machine-no-joy-in-birtherville/

      Re: Even the governor of Hawaii has stated publicly that his office searched for the original BC and it was never found. He promised but could not produce a document other than the forged electronic version. So he shut up."

      Answer: You are correct that he could not produce a document other than the official birth certificate of Hawaii. But that is sufficient. It is not forged. And t he fact that Hawaii issued a birth certificate for Obama in 1961 is also confirmed by the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers, and the Index Data file.

      Birthers have not even been able to show that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961. (And, if she did not have a passport, and very very few 18-year-olds did, what is the "born in a foreign country" story based on?)

      For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

      (1) Obama's mother would have had to have GONE to a foreign country, and that, as noted is unlikely and we do not even have evidence that she had a passport; and

      (2) Obama would have had to have been successfully SMUGGLED from that foreign country to Hawaii since we do not and never had allowed infants to be carried into the USA without a passport or a visa, and there is NO evidence that one was applied for for Obama;

      (3) in addition to the extreme unlikelihood of both (1) and (2) happening, Obama's relatives would have had to have gotten the officials in Hawaii to issue a false birth certificate for Obama in 1961 (when there was a Republican governor in Hawaii BTW).

      ALL three of those highly unlikely things would have had to have happened.

      Re: "There are fifty ballot applications for Obama to be listed as the Democratic candidate made by the DNC in 2008 signed by Nancy Pelosi, its chairman at that time..."

      And, just as the 50 ballot applications by the Republican Party, the 50 ballot applications by the Democrats fulfilled the legal requirements of each and every one of the 50 US states. But, let's assume that they didn't---that would mean that in South Carolina or Georgia or Arizona or Texas REPUBLICAN officials took the ballot application form from the Democrats even though it did not fulfill their requirements and accepted it as valid. Why would they do that?

      (In other words, you have been played. ALL 50 ballot applications by the Democrats were perfectly valid.)

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      Re: " First being that his father was never an American citizen...."

      Answer: EVERY child born on US soil------and Obama was born in Hawaii for certain and it is nutty to think that there is even a rational possibility that he was born somewhere else------is a Natural Born US Citizen and eligible to become president.


      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      Re: "there is solid evidence that he was adopted by an Indonesian citizen..."

      Answer: Obama certainly was NEVER an Indonesian citizen, as a simple telephone call to the Indonesian EMBASSY (ask for the press officer) will confirm. And there is no evidence whatever that Obama was adopted, which takes the action of a district court in Indonesia---and no such document has been found.

      Re: "and his mother no longer listed him on her American passport when he returned to live in Hawaii."

      Answer: For the OBVIOUS reason that, wait for it, he had his own US passport by then---and he probably did when he went to Indonesia too. He was a child, not an infant, at the time.

      Re: "He travelled to Pakistan when Americans were banned from travelling there."

      Answer: My goodness you fall for ALL the birther lies don't you?

      The answer is that Pakistan did not, and has never banned Americans from traveling there, and the US government did not and has never banned US citizens from going to Pakistan. Birther sites just said that that happened, but it didn't. (BTW, US newspapers were running travel articles recommending visiting Pakistan in 1982 when Obama went there, and Pakistan International Airlines had offices on Fifth Avenue in New York City and few from JFK via London to Karachi.)

      Obama never had a passport from Indonesia, as that telephone call to the Indonesian embassy (the one in which you can confirm that he was never a citizen of that country) will also show you.


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      Re: "The lies go on and on."

      Answer: I have shown that you have bought into the birther LIE that Americans could not go to Pakistan in 1982 and the birther LIE that Obama became an Indonesian citizen. In fact the entire birther movement is mainly based on LIES.

      Some examples of classic birther lies:

      (1) Birthers said that Obama's draft card was forged, and indeed it was forged, but Obama did not post his draft card, nor did any representative of Obama---so who do you think forged it? (Okay, I'll make it easy---the guy who posted it.)

      (2) Birthers have said that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia---but a telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy shows that he was never an Indonesian citizen. Why do you suppose that the birthers did not call the Indonesian embassy to check?

      (3) Birthers said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya---but the transcript of the call shows that she said that he was BORN IN HAWAII---why do you suppose they did not quote her accurately and in fact cut off the tape recording of the call on their sites just before she said "born in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Why do you suppose they did that?

      (4) Birther sites did not tell you about SS Administration clerks making lots of mistakes and that a single digit entered wrong in the zip code would generated a SS number from a place other than where it was applied from. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

      (5) Birther sites did not tell their readers that the Kenyan government said that Obama was NOT born there. Why do you suppose they did not tell their readers that?

      (6) Birther sites did not even tell their readers that there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961---or how very few 18-year-olds did in those days, or how EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in those days because of the high risk of stillbirth. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?

      (7) Birther sites posted videos of Obama that claimed to show that he said "I was born in Kenya"---but you cannot see his mouth move and the originals of those videos have been found, and they do not say "I was born in Kenya.."" Why do you suppose that they forged and posted those videos? (Ditto, by the way, for three forged "Kenyan birth certificates." And what do you suppose was the motive for forging them??)

      (8) Birther sites said Obama spent “millions” on hiding his birth certificate. But Obama showed his birth certificate and did not spend a cent on hiding anything. And in fact, as birther sites did not tell their readers, there wasn’t even one lawsuit for Obama’s birth certificate or for records, not one. There were lawsuits to keep Obama off of ballots, but NO lawsuits for his birth certificate or records of any kind. Why do you suppose that birther sites implied that there were lawsuits for Obama's BC---when there weren't ANY???

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      (9) Birther sites said that Obama’s records are “sealed,” but they are not sealed. They are covered under the ordinary state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain and previous presidents did not release similar records either.

      And (10) the constant repetition ‘the birth certificates are forged,” and “anyone can see that the birth certificates are forged”---are all birther lies too. And they have the same motives as the lies shown above.

      Birthers have not shown all the real experts who have said that there is nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, nor have they told the readers on birther sites that the officials in Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the birth certificates to Obama and confirmed ALL the facts on the copy that the White House put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him. And they have not explained the research on the Xerox Workstation either:

      Obama has shown his Hawaii short form birth certificate in 2008 (and the short form is the OFFICIAL BC accepted by the US government for US passports) and his long form birth certificate, and officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent them to Obama and that all the facts on the copy that the White House has put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him. That is sufficient. However, for the few poor nuts who think that those four officials are lying (and they include the former Republican governor of Hawaii), there is also the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers and the Index Data file.

      Here is the confirmation by the former governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican (and a friend of Sarah Palin’s), that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital:

      http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html

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    16. It seems you protest TOO MUCH. If there was a real Birth Certificate, he would have shown it 6 years ago, yes, you do protest TOO MUCH.

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  3. actually bill o'rielly is to coin a phrase is a "PIN HEAD".

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    1. Worse, he pretends to be an impartial commentator when he's about as liberal as chrissie mathews.

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  4. WE have the tools now SO USE THEM MAKE SURE EVERYONE IN THE WORLD SEES THIS FRAUD THAT THE MEDIA, OBAMA, AND THE DEMOCRAT PARTY REALLY ARE IT IS OUR TURN SO MAKE THE BEST OF IT.

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  5. We know,We know, We know Everything about this guy is false a lie and a cover up,But all you do is talk, talk, talk, And beg for donations to stop him Your just as bad as these telethons were after a cure keep sending your monthly installments, years and years and years.Just no end to it. But you make a good living dont you ?

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  6. Where ever he was born and who hie real Father is , Who knows ?? was that hosp. in Hawaii Even there in 1961, ,, It's the training he had as he grew up that made him hate America from his schooling in Indonesia to his father , Frank Marshal Davis , Teaching him about Communism ,, With his Grand Parents both caring communist cards , Them a Muslim school in Indonesia !!,, then when he became an Indonesian Foreign Student ,, He gets to Chicago with the Ayers Family ,, and goes to a church ran by Rev.Wright,, and then Meetings with Frances Fox Piven and Andrew Cloward,, Then with The Drugs , and getting involved with Acorn and Then helping get Alice Palmer elected by using names from Tombstone in South Chicago ,, She thanked Barry with a Trip to Moscow where he received schooling in Marxism and Communism ,, Then the communists backed him so he could get into American Politics ,, He could tell Lies and people thought he was telling the truth ,, He came Home to Chicago,, Stabbed Alice in the back and told how she had been elected ,, She stepped down and With backing from our Enemies he was then the Illinois State Senator ,, A traitor you best believe it!!,, His next step should be Prison !!

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    1. Re: " was that hosp. in Hawaii Even there in 1961, ,"

      Answer: YES

      How do we know?

      Because the Nordkye twins were born in the same hospital as Obama one day later, and their birth certificates are on WND's site, and the name of the hospital on their birth certificates is Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital-----which is exactly the same as the name on Obama,s birth certificate.

      Obama went to two schools in Indonesia, a Catholic school and a public school.

      Obama was never an Indonesian citizen and never registered as an Indonesian student. That story comes from an APRIL FOOL'S article (are you in the habit of believing April Fool's articles?) that was originally posted on April 1, 2009---and, BTW, it is false, not a single piece of evidence has been given to back up the story.

      Re the communist claim. He is a liberal Democrat, and despite your not liking him, he is a Natural Born US Citizen, and hence was eligible to become president, and he was elected president---twice---the most recent time with nearly five million more votes than Mitt Romney. His term of office will run through January 20, 2017---and if anything were to happen to him, Joe Biden would take over.

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    2. Yes, II forgot about Alice,he basically had the senate position handed to him. I am one of those that believe he has been trained from a young man to run for the position and the agenda to be" destroy the US" Financially backed by Geo Soros. Look at his cabinet!! 6 or 7 muslims. look at the position the man from Iran that was in the group that kidnapped the US citizens in Iran and held them hostage!! Why is he allowed in the country let alone put into a position of authority!! His actions alone make him very suspicious ..

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    3. I would rather see him hanging at the end of a rope along with ole commie mooshele. These American Haters do not belong here and should be sent to their favorite Islamic country for the Good of We The People. Our government has been ruined by the likes of this communist dictator. he is worse than joseph stalin and is proud of his communistic life. He deserves only what our God Almighty has planned for him. He might even be satan in disguise.

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  7. Obama is America's Public Enemy #1 and I don't care where he was born. He is a proven LIAR and he's doing everything to destroy and disempower this Nation. He does not enforce the rule of law and has done nothing to curb illegal immigration. He's buying the illegal immigrant and foreign vote by violating U.S. immigration law and not enforcing our laws and he and traitor scum like smrsstrauss and other communists who support him know they are lying but like in all communist countries they will be the only ones to benefit by being part of the Communist Party Elite. Obama must be deposed. He is a Communist Dictator and he is a threat to the American People and their Freedom. Down with Obama. Down with his Traitors. Power to the Constitution and the American People. Down with the Tyrant and his administration.

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    1. I agree, he has a lot of communist backers.They are going to naturally defend him. But even they ahve to admit (to their selves) he has done a treerrible job of caring for this country and its citizens. Almost everything he has done has been detrimental to either the country as a whole or its citizens. That is why I like Mitt Romney he really cares about this country and still doesWe all know the election figures are a lie. Several state show "over "100% of the registered democrates voting , .People admittimg they voterd more than once!! Counties that voted 100% for Obama. Never could happen!! Especially when folks said they voted for Romney! To get the money to run Hillary out of the race! Came from foreign backers which is illegal . It was channeled through traitor american citizen. Illegals being registered and allowed to vote. I witnessed that one myself and was told they couldn't do anything about it!! We have become a lazy, dope smoking , food stamps, welfare supported country .This is the 47% .Indoctrinated idiots!

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    2. Notice that Anonymous has not responded to a single fact? (I wonder why not?)

      Re: "We all know the election figures are a lie. Several state show "over "100% of the registered democrates voting..."

      Answer: Dream on. IF that had been true, then don't you think that Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Karl Rove or the Republican governors and Republican secretaries of state of the swing states or Huckabee or Bachmann or Gingrich would have said something about it. But none of them did. Neither did Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh. And the US Congress voted to confirm Obama's election UNANIMOUSLY, and that included the votes of Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul.

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    3. Re: "Obama must be deposed. "

      That is illegal under the Smith Act, which conservatives have long been strong supporters of.

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  8. with all this evidence ..why is nothing being done???

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    1. There isn't any evidence. Obama really was born in Hawaii.

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  9. Barry was born in Kenya:

    "COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR

    Congratulatory Message to President-Elect Barrack Obama

    Hon. Members, as you may be aware, the people of the United States of America have just had a historic election where the son of this soil, Barrack Hussein Obama, has been elected the 44th President of the United States of America and the first African-American President in the history of that country, please join me in registering and sending this House's congratulations to the President-elect Obama...

    Screen Capture of Original Kenyan Parliamentary Debate Web site, November 5, 2008, page 3276, "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is Not Eligible to be President", p.181, by Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D.

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    1. Re: "the son of this soil, Barrack Hussein Obama..."

      The term "son of this soil" refers to Obama's having been born of a Kenyan father. It does not mean born in Kenya.

      It is NUTTY to think that there was even a rational possibility that Obama was born in Kenya. The Kenyan government said that it investigated and OBAMA WAS NOT BORN IN KENYA. The Hawaii government (officials of both parties, confirmed by the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the papers by the DOH in 1961) says that Obama was born IN HAWAII. And the US Immigration and Naturalization Service report for fiscal 1961 says that only 21 people total came to the USA from Kenya in 1961---and all but one of them came by SHIP----and there were no regular ships from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961.

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    2. No, my friend, they meant born in Kenya.

      And that, Kenyan, Obama knows this,

      "Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.


      This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.

      http://theobamafile.com/_eligibility/WhatToBelieve.htm


      "By Judy Munyinyi-Mumo

      It seems Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States of America (via a sleepy village in Kenya called Nyang’oma K’Ogelo) can do no wrong. The question on everyone’s lips — mine too — this weekend is "Does Obama deserve the Nobel Peace Prize?"

      http://theobamafile.com/_eligibility/WhatToBelieve.htm

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    3. Re: "No, my friend, they meant born in Kenya. "

      No my friend. That meant born of a KENYAN.

      (And, don't you get it---it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE that Obama was born in Kenya.)

      (1) the Kenyan government says he was NOT born in Kenya; (2) the Hawaii government says he WAS born in Hawaii (birth certificates plus officials of both parties plus documents plus newspaper notices that cold only have been sent by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961); (3) The US Immigration and Naturalization Service says that only 21 people TOTAL came from Kenya in 1961---and all but one of them by SHIP (and there were no regular ships from Kenya to Hawaii).

      So, for Obama to have been born in Kenya: (1) his mother would have had to have been among the 63 Americans who went to Kenya---all by ship---and late in her pregnancy, at the risk of stillbirth and Yellow Fever (which was endemic in Kenya at the time: Or (2) according to the Shrimpton thesis, some other woman in Kenya was the real mother but Stanley Ann treated Obama as her child all of her life. Neither (1) or (2) is at all likely---particularly (2).

      AND (3) regardless of who was the mother, if Obama were born in Kenya, someone would have had to have successfully SMUGGLED Obama from Kenya to Hawaii because we do not just allow infants to be carried into the USA. The INS requires either that the child be entered on the mother's passport, or a US passport for the child itself, or that the child have a US visa on its foreign passport. But any one of those would have had to have been applied for, and there are no documents showing that one was applied for for Obama in 1961 (and if there were, surely the Bush Administration would have found it over the eight years that it was in charge of the State Department---or are you saying that they were part of the plot???)

      And even if Obama were successfully smuggled, he and whomever carried him would STILL have had to have been among the mere 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961---and all but one of them by SHIP.

      And, there is a birth certificate for Obama that says that he was born at a hospital fairly near to his American grandparent's home in Honolulu, and it has the signature of a doctor who practiced at that hospital on it, and the wife of the doctor (who is dead now) says that that is her husband's signature, and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers' "Health Bureau Statistics" section (which only the Health Bureau---as the DOH was known as at the time could send notices to) confirms that Obama was born in Hawaii (since the DOH only sent out notices for children born in Hawaii).

      YES Obama's publicist made a mistake and said that Obama was born in Kenya. And she has admitted that mistake. Yes, some people in Kenya think that Obama was born in Kenya---just as some people in the USA have bought the birther line that Obama was born in Kenya. But no matter how many people THINK that Obama was born in Kenya, he wasn't and couldn't have been.

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      In addition to all of the above, the birther sites have lied repeatedly with their claim that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya. She really said that he was born in HAWAII, repeatedly. Birther sites simply did not quote her and cut off the tape recordings on their sites just before she was asked where he was born (she answered "In Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time" but birther sites simply did not quote her and cut off the tape recordings on their sites before she said it so their readers could not hear it---I wonder why?) And birther sites have continued to run the three FORGED "Kenyan birth certificates"---one of them from a former convicted forger (which the birther sites do not tell their readers) who says that he got it in Mombasa, Kenya but has refused to show any evidence that he was ever in Kenya----I wonder why?

      In short, the "born in Kenya" story is completely nutty and could not have happened. You are being played.

      Back in the 1960s the hippies had a similar game. They would insist that they had found a way to get high by drying out and smoking banana peels. And when anyone said that there was no evidence that that was possible and in fact that there was nothing in banana peels that could make someone high, they'd just smile and say "i've done it, so it is possible." Well, you are being played like that.

      Obama was not among the 21 who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961.His father, however, was from Kenya---and the newspaper report that says "Kenyan born" refers to the father----meaning (and remember English is the second language of the editor) that Obama was born of a Kenyan.

      It is from such mistakes and the LIES of birther sites that said that the grandmother said something that she didn't and the forged 'Kenyan birth certificates" that the "born in Kenya" myth has emerged. But Obama was not among the 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961.

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    5. You really do Protest way TOO MUCH

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  10. Why not just call Sheriff Joe! He's been there, done that!

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    1. Re: Sheriff Joe, Zullo, and the Cold Case Posse:



      http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2014/03/banned-birther-breaks-br-censorship-barrier/

      http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/brian-reilly-spilling-the-beans-on-zullo/

      And, most recently:

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2014/04/banned-birther-breaks-the-br-censorship-barrier-part-2/

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  11. LIKE ANY OF IT'S GOING TO MATTER UNTIL WE HAVE A SENATE MAJORITY TO BACK THE HOUSE & "LEADERS" WHO AREN'T AFRAID TO BE CALLED RACISTS FOR DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. FRANKLY, I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING. ESPECIALLY AS LONG AS HOLDER IS COMRADE OBAMA'S LAST LINE OF DEFENSE.........................

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  12. HI officials state that there is no record. The birth cert. number wasn't consistent with the date. The document contained fonts that were not in use at the time. The term 'african-american' was not used. Negro was. Obama's own attorneys ADMITTED IN OPEN COURT that the BC wasn't authentic. Moron, Keep up the good fight though...you're winning! Loser,

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    1. Three officials in Hawaii have repeatedly stated that they saw the birth certificate in the files where it is supposed to be, and that they sent copies to Obama---a fourth, the former Republican Governor of Hawaii (a friend of Sarah Palin's) agrees with those three and adds that Obama was born at Kapiolani Hospital. The birth notices and Index Data files also confirm that Obama received a birth certificate from Hawaii in 1961.

      Obama's BC does NOT have the word "African-American" in it. It has the word AFRICAN. Only African.

      There is a simple explanation. In HAWAII, you were allowed to write in ANY word or combination of words to describe your race. ANY word or words. Some said that their race was "American"---which is not a race---but Hawaii accepted it. Some said that their race was "Italian" or "Norwegian"---or Samoan or Samoan/Chinese, or Korean/Chinese---etc., etc.

      So you could write any word or words.

      And what was the word that African exchange students commonly used to describe their race in the 1960s? Answer: AFRICAN. And what was the word that the colonial government in Kenya (which, BTW, did exist at the time and was called Kenya---short for "the Kenya Colony") used to describe the black residents of that area? Answer: AFRICANS.

      So, the word AFRICAN was permitted and was accurate.

      "Loser" yourself.

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    2. Re: "fonts not used at the time."

      Explained by the Xerox WorkCentre:

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/11/blogger-shows-obama-birth-certificate-artifacts-caused-by-xerox-machine-no-joy-in-birtherville/

      Moreover:

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/ame-o-ospit-or-nstitution-not-in-ospit/

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    3. Re: "Obama's own attorneys ADMITTED IN OPEN COURT that the BC wasn't authentic. "

      Answer: That is simply another birther LIE. They never said any such thing.

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  13. If true, the congress man should be investigated for mental incapacity, and removed form office

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    1. But it isn't true. It is simply another repetition of a standard birther LIE.

      Obama has shown both his Hawaii short-form BC (the Certification of Live Birth, COLB, which is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people to get their US passports every year), and he has shown his long form Hawaii BC. And the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent them to him, and that all the facts, repeat ALL the facts are exactly the same, repeat, EXACTLY the same, as what they sent to him. And Obama's birth in Hawaii in 1961 is also confirmed by the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii (and ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to that section of the newspapers, the "Health Bureau Statistics" section, where Obama's birth notice was published, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii).

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  14. SIX MONTHS have passed since the alleged "investigation," and nothing came of it. Perhaps there was no "investigation." Or just as likely there was an investigation but the PI found out that Obama really was born in Hawaii.

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Posted By: Chris Carmouche