Breaking: Congress Finally Showing Interest In Obama Birth Certificate
Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse lead investigation, Mike Zullo, claims that
there is finally an interest being expressed in Congress about the
investigation's conclusion that the White House document is fraudulent – an
image created on a computer.
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WND reports: "A contingent of citizens in Maricopa County had asked Arpaio to
look into the issue because they were concerned an ineligible candidate would be
on their 2012 presidential election ballot." "Zullo previously has contributed evidence to a court case – now pending before the state Supreme Court in Alabama – on the dispute. He has testified that the White House computer image of Obama’s birth certificate contains anomalies that are unexplainable unless the document had been fabricated piecemeal by human intervention, rather than being copied from a genuine paper document." |
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Under the present Congress very little chance, they don't even defund Obamacare and that would be easy doing. A solid third party, it's the only way out from our un-American Government. A party with a written constitution within our Constitution. Keeps the party original and members intact.
ReplyDeleteTEA-party!
DeleteThe only way to get out of this mess is for the southern and western states is to leave the union and take the Counstitution and the Bill of Rights with us and send all the blacks and white liberal trash back east.
DeleteI hate to say it, but I believed you are exactly right!!!
DeleteRe Zullo, Sheriff Joe and the Cold Case Posse:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292780/conspiracy-again-editors
It makes no sense that only NOW is there some interest in whether or not Obama is native-born. From the day that the fake birth certificate was put on his web site, anyone could tell it was not a legal document. And that's been many moons. "Native-born" surely means more than just at birth. We should all want our President to have been reared by patriots. Obama was sent to school as a Muslim and learned to love the sound of Muslim chants, then was turned over to grandparents who hate all the U.S.A. stands for.
ReplyDeleteRe: "anyone could tell it was not a legal document."
DeleteAnswer. What you mean is that birther sites CLAIM that "anyone could tell."
But then they said that there was "kerning," and it was the normal skipping of a manual typewriter, and then they said that Obama's Web image of his long form birth certificate would not show layers, but they never told you that layers are in fact normal in pdf. That is how it works, and the more complex the document, the more layers.
What they also did not tell you is that there isn't even any evidence that Obama's mother even had a passport in 1961 (and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days) and that the rate of women traveling abroad late in pregnancy was very low in those days. And they did not tell you that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the short form and long form birth certificates to Obama and that every single fact on the BC that the White House put online is exactly the same, repeat EXACTLY THE SAME, as on what they sent to him.
Yet birther sites think rational people are gullible enough to believe that Obama's mother had a passport, and traveled abroad despite the risk of stillbirth, and that the officials of BOTH parties are lying about that fact, and about the facts on the posted BC being exactly the same as on the one they sent to him.
Continuing:
DeleteOnly birther “experts” have called Obama’s BC forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts:
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
And it is irrational (to say the least) to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
(Oh, and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.)
People like you would argue while you are watching the sun set in the evening that it never came that morning.
DeleteWell said...
DeleteRe: ". "Native-born" surely means more than just at birth."
ReplyDeleteThe meaning of Natural Born (not native born) comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth. All native born children are Natural Born Citizens with the exception of the children of foreign diplomats.
"Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
More reading on the subject:
http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012
Even more reading on the subject:
Deletehttp://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/04/vattel-and-natural-born-citizen/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause_of_the_U.S._Constitution
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html
Probably just about every place of business in USA over 50 employees has one graphics artist who uses Adobe illustrator. Do as I did. Go ask that person, as you look over their shoulder, to go to the white house website, download the bc, and inspect it in their graphics art software package. It will be like having someone pull out their driver's license and watching a bunch of little snips of letters of different fonts fall out of a crack in the laminations. If you can't tell that for yourself, ask your commpany's graphics artist if he can think of an explanation besides that it is an amateur job at forgery. Then, after that, you won't care so much about where Obama was born, you'll realize it is much much bigger than that. You'll have to ask yourself how there can be so many people, in politics, in media, people who have sworn to uphold the constitution, have kept their mouth shut and have ignored this. They can't all be ignorant. Are they fearful? Are they stupid? Is it all with complicit cooperation with some huge conspiracy? Can a cover up be this big? I think at the least, it is indication we've been taken over by a bunch of people who think much differently than you or I do. They want this takeover or they just don't want to rock the boat. But it means there are far more people in important places who don't care about saving USA as much as they don't want to lose their job or be a soldier and stand up for what is right. Obama's birthplace need not be discussed until after we resolve who are all these people we trusted to vet him and who, after the fact, never stood up. Who are they? How does your worldview handle that? ...or you just don't care either. Only a handful like the Sheriff have put themselves in harm's way over this. If you don't believe me, go get your own graphics artist to look at it....he'll tell you. If you don't believe your own eyes, or think you don't know enough about "computers" to realize what you see, ask his expert opinion. But it is really way to obvious to a thinking person to see it is, at best,an amateurish forgery. We live in an Orwellian world that such can exist and we, in mass, are too brain dead to see the obvious. "Denial" is too weak a description.
DeleteRe: "Probably just about every place of business in USA over 50 employees has one graphics artist who uses Adobe illustrator. Do as I did. Go ask that person, as you look over their shoulder, to go to the white house website, download the bc, and inspect it in their graphics art software package. It will be like having someone pull out their driver's license and watching a bunch of little snips of letters of different fonts fall out of a crack in the laminations...."
ReplyDeleteAnswer. Yes---that is how pdf works---who told you that it didn't? A document scanned and put into pdf will show all that you said--THAT IS HOW IT WORKS. And the more complex the document (such as a document with typing and print and signatures on security paper) will show complex layers.
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
Oh, and have birther sites even told you that there is no evidence that Obama's mother even had a passport in 1961????
smrstrauss: you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Do as I suggested please. Don't just robotically repeat what you heard/read from the liars. Go find your nearest graphics artist. Just about every company employs one. Have him open up the Birth Certificate that he dowloads directly off the White House website. Now listen. Just do it. You are so bamboozled that you cannot believe what I am saying. Between you and your graphics artist, you will be looking at it and you will have no doubt it is forged. You have your own brain. You have your own eyes. You will see for yourself. But if you are so in denial that it is impossible for you to absorb what I say is true, then you WON'T do what I suggest and you will continue to get on blogs/forums and spread nonsense like "Yes, that is how pdf works. Who told you that it didn't?".... Man, don't you understand what I am saying?..it is not an argument of how software works...that's like saying "Yes, the driver's license with all the little snipped out letters in the laminations? That's how it works." That's how stupid is your comment! A forgery, whether done with snipped out paper scraps or whether done with computer graphics... we are not talking about mere software artifact...we are talking about OBVIOUS AMATEURISH FORGERY that is easy to see. So go look and quit pretending you know something. I know you didn't look and you are probably afraid to look and see how bad it really is...you believe liars even when the truth is given you. And you DON'T have to trust whether someone is lying or telling the truth...you can see it with your OWN eyes. So quit changing the subject to O's mama's passport... you can't directly observe his mama's passport ...that's just heresay...but you CAN go observe the BC with your own eyes. Go find a graphics expert ....they are EVERYWHERE.. and then don't say another word till you've seen it in person. OK?
ReplyDeleteRe: "Go find your nearest graphics artist. Just about every company employs one. Have him open up the Birth Certificate that he dowloads directly off the White House website. Now listen. Just do it. You are so bamboozled that you cannot believe what I am saying. Between you and your graphics artist, you will be looking at it and you will have no doubt it is forged. "
ReplyDeleteAnswer: As I have said, pdf works that way, it is SUPPOSED TO WORK THAT WAY. When you open a complex pdf document in Illustrator it shows the layers and pixilation that you refer to. That is how pdf works. Who told you that it worked some other way?
(And, brtw, there isn't even any evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961, and very very few 18-year-olds did.)
Re: "Congress Finally Showing Interest In Obama Birth Certificate "
ReplyDeleteMore than three months have passed since this report, and Congress has not shown a bit of interest in it yet.
EIGHT months have passed now, and Congress has not shown a bit of interest. It was, of course, a lie that there was ever any interest.
DeleteMore than NINE months have passed now, and Congress has not shown a bit of interest. It was, of course, a lie that there was ever any interest.
ReplyDeleteMore than a YEAR has passed now, and Congress has not shown a bit of interest. It was, of course, a lie that there was ever any interest.
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