Obama Threatened Chelsea Clinton's Life Over Birth Certificate
This Hollywood producer is renewing her allegation that Team Obama threatened
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Well, obama has daughters. Does he not think if he kills someones kids there will be pay back? Why are adults bringing kids into this? That is cowardly. Surely people are not that stupid.
ReplyDeleteI look at them (his supposed daughters) and I don't think they are his.
DeleteIt never happened. Obama really was born in Hawaii, and the reason that Hillary stopped investigating whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii was that she found that, wait for it, he really was born in Hawaii---as his birth certificate, and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii and the Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the "Health Bureau Statistics" section of the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 all show.
Deleteand.....don't you suppose part of ovomit's payoff package included the Hawaiin officials?? You must be delusional to think otherwise......we have a muslim marxist in OUR house.....Clintons are no better.....they studied under Alinski.
DeleteRe: "and.....don't you suppose part of ovomit's payoff package included the Hawaiin officials?? "
DeleteIn addition to the officials, there are the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers,and the teacher who wrote home (to her father, named Stanley, after hearing of the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley).
Here are the birth notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php
(And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)
Here is the Index Data file:
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html
And here is the statement of a witness who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, in 1961 and writing home to her father about it:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don%27t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm
Oh, and BTW, birthers have not even showed that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961. (And since they did get access to her file with a FOI Act request, they could have found out that she had a passport in 1961 or not. Most likely, duh, they did find out the answer, and that she did not have a passport---but they simply forgot to post that fact.)
DeleteIF she did have a passport, which is most unlikely, (very few Americans did in 1961, and even fewer 18-year-olds), she would have been unlikely to have used it for a trip ALONE (since WND has proven that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) to a foreign country at huge expense and high risk of stillbirths (the rate of which was high in 1961).
But, a question. Why do you suppose that birthers got Obama's mother's passport file and did not tell people whether or not she had a passport in 1961? What do you suppose the chances are that they KNOW that she did not have a passport---and are simply not telling.
Obummer is far more powerful and connected to "certain" people who murder for "higher" causes. Case in point is Obama's homosexual friends (3) who were "mysteriously" killed previous to O's political debus.
DeleteOf course my allegation and all of the internet proofs of all this are just hogwash. Only the extremely biased mainstream "news" media which buries all Obama history prints the truth - right?
Obama has a non-wife and two non-children. Again, Obama has N E V E R been a father to the children who live in the White House, or a husband to Moochelle (which I do not blame him for (what an ugly sucker)! Where have you been for 5.5 years?
Deleteobummer claims he has daughters, maybe yes, maybe no. He is very gay, maybe he hired someone to father them, from the looks of muchelle, it probably cost a lot of money. I do not doubt for a minute that the threat happened.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone attepted to go to Congress with this information? I know that there is more of a chance that they would not do a thing about it, but it is still worth a try. With everything else that has been going on with the Obama Administration, everything is starting to catch up with Obama, this murder, this BC issue, along with the info that Mike Zullo has recieved upon Obama, the world will soon be caught up to him, and soon he is going down, as long as ene play's their card together. et's get on the ball, start emailing your congressman, and continue beating them up until they surrender, and strt doing something about it.
ReplyDeleteMembers of Congress KNOW that Obama was actually born in Hawaii. For example:
Deletehttp://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/paul_ryan_obama_birthers.php
For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:
(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank, and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;
(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);
(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).
If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.
So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?
Well, snrstrauss ; I think you need to go back to sleep and dream in silence. You are one of the ignorant asses, who helped to create this mess by helping to put a Kenyan muslim in our oval office. Go back to your silly nightmare and leave our real nightmare alone. It's extremely serious here and we don't need ignorant children in the way.
DeleteObama certainly was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii.
DeleteThe “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof. (Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …
Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.
Oh, and there is this (I bet no birther site has ever shown it to you):
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol …
I really wish you would publish TEXT as well as post videos or audios. Many of us have a VERY SLOW internet connection. I can barely make it through a 1 min video, and usually it takes about five min. In this case I made it through about 4 min audio before it quit. I understand that many people prefer to watch or listen, but many of us find reading faster and more efficient.
ReplyDeletePublishing text also allows for better fact checking. I have heard a similar interview a couple years ago and I most certainly believe Obama is up to such threats (Breitbart, anyone?). However it would be easy enough on a slow news day to re-post an older interview and that would be unethical.
I totally agree
DeleteNot only that what about those of us who are deaf.. sucking hind tit as usual.
Deleteyep Clinton was the one who told the media about obozo.....funny how things work
ReplyDeleteThe Clintons investigated whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii, and when they confirmed that he was, they stopped investigating. His birth certificate, plus the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, plus the Index Data
Deletehttp://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html
plus the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php
(And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)
All show that Obama really was born in Hawaii.
I can't square why they used the term " African American " on the BC ,when at the time the term" Negro " was still used for the next 15 years ?
DeleteWhy isn't Clinton going to the secret service and reporting such a threat?? This insanity is going too far!! Now we have the mafia running the country!!UNREAL!!
ReplyDeleteShe should if it happened - but apparently she is more concerned in getting the nomination and being elected President than exposing the criminal in the White House. You can better believe there are those behind the scenes that would see to it she did not make it...
DeleteRe: "Why isn't Clinton going to the secret service and reporting such a threat?? "
DeleteBecause, duh, it never happened.
cOME ON ....THEY ARE ALL IN BED TOGETHER...
ReplyDeletebILL Clinton WOULD HAVE HAD HIS HIT MEN GET Obama.
this is what happs when good people do nothng
ReplyDeleteIn add'n to this "threat story", dig deep into the Andrew Breitbart death which went undr the rug faster than a roach on a hot stove
Oh when at first we do deceive, we do deceive...and deceive...and deceive......until the masses believe it
If it weren't for 1776, there'd be no today.
Remember that.
As for gun control to "reduce crime"...B.S. Criminals will alwys have guns. And I will have mine when they come to get me.
It's for CONTROL ! so we cant fight back.]
Again, say-I, B.S.
IF and when they do come to get our guns I hope they don't for get there body bags cause they will need them for me to put them in.
DeleteLIVE FREE OR DIE!!!!!
Re: "Andrew Breitbart death..."
DeleteHe died of natural causes.
Answer: Andrew Breitbart died of natural causes, and he was NEVER a birther. He laughed at them.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/andrew-breitbart-cause-of-death-heart-attack-314705
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/09/police-debunk-theories-linking-breitbart-l-a-coroner-tech-deaths.html
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/05/andrew-breitbart-was-never-a-birther-123780.html
Bob Woodward exposed Watergate. Why doesn't he dig into this story? Somehow it has to be told, and everyone seems to be too scared to bring it up. They say that Glenn Beck is crazy, but he isn't. Someone like Bob Woodward is a respected investigative journalist. He should be the one to write about this. Will someone please ask him to do it.?
ReplyDeleteBecause he does not believe that it is true, and he is right. Glenn Beck, by the way, like Ann Coulter and the National Review, believes that Obama actually was born in Hawaii---as his birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii (including the former Republican governor of Hawaii, a friend of Sarah Palin's) and the Index Data and the birth notices in the "Health Bureau Statistics" sections of the Hawaii newspapers all show.
DeleteHere are the birth notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961.
Deletehttp://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php
(And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)
Here is the Index Data file:
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html
Where he was born is IMMATERIAL.
ReplyDeleteI am inclined to believe his grandmother who was present at his birth in Mombasa. She was then held back from reporters etc and fortunately??? died when he was visiting kenya.
But, he had BRITISH FATHER, no one can deny that however much they try. He was BRITISH.
To be president you must have 2 US citizens as parents.
They gave no mercy to McCain as he was born in Panama BUT< on an AMERICAN BASE-so US territory-and to two US citizens. See the difference? TWO! TWO! TWO! per the US Constitution.
He is NOT eligible and never was.
As for SOROS, who has made billions who knows how but he started out in NAZI Germany saving his skin by giving up the Jewish Families and then purloining some of their wealth when they were arrested. WHY he was never chased by Israel who went after so many Nazi criminals until capture- e.g.Eichmann I will NEVER understand. He may have been young but he knew what he was doing. It is shameful that such a person, a monster, is so filthy rich. HOW?
If anyone should be investigated he would be No. 1 on my list.
Re: "I am inclined to believe his grandmother who was present at his birth in Mombasa. She was then held back from reporters etc and fortunately??? died when he was visiting kenya."
DeleteAnswer: Obama's Kenyan grandmother is still alive, and she never said that Obama was born in Kenya---a birther site simply said that she was, and did so by cutting off the tape recording just BEFORE she was asked "Where was he born?" She answered that question by saying repeatedly "IN Hawaii," and "In Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Birther sites simply ignored what she said.
And the Kenyan government said that it investigated and that Obama certainly was not born in Kenya. (And, duh, only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and all of them except one came by SHIP---and that one was not a US citizen---so it would have been very very hard for Obama's mother to go there and return, since there were no direct ships between Hawaii and Kenya.
The meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and includes every child born in the USA, except for the children of foreign diplomats.
"Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
Re Soros---that is changing the subject. Obama is the subject, and he was born in Hawaii and since the meaning of Natural Born Citizen includes every child born on US soil (except for the children of foreign diplomats), Obama---like Jindal and Rubio, is a Natural Born Citizen.
recently a clerk who works in the office that issues birth certification certificates admitted the certificate was a fake.
DeleteThe Brithsih government released data that obamas father, a british citizen had a male child, born in kenya 1961
Bill Clinton said this on television not a direct interview, but casually during some part of the campaign and he was laughing. I think he couldn't come out and officially say it seriously, but he did say it and I heard it myself..that he was not even a citizen and not eligible, period.Just more of the 'shadow government' or NSA in operation behind the scenes, playing dirty just like they always do.Power and control is the name of the game.
ReplyDeleteYou do know that Bill Clinton was trying to help his wife win don't you? And, until he received definitive proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, he could say things like that. But when he received proof that Obama was born in Hawaii---the birth certificate, and the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties (including the former Republican governor, a friend of Sarah Palin's) and the Index Data and the birth notices---then when he saw the proof, he stopped saying such things.
DeleteAnd now, a question for you:
For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:
(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank, and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;
(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);
(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).
If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.
So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?
I just keep reading crap that I already know here, but what about Benghazi? What about the IRS scandal that reaches to his top appointee? Why don't people impeach Obama for what he is doing? I don't care where he was born. Who cares where this idiot was born?
DeleteIn the famous words of Hillary - "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?" He has won both elections and it makes no difference at all!!! Give it up with anything of Hillary. She is NO GOOD!!!! Period!!! As shown from Benghazi!!!
ReplyDeleteRe: ". She is NO GOOD!!!! Period!!! "
DeleteSo don't vote for her. (Others, however, are likely to vote for her.)
Apparently some people still believe that a Hawaii Birth Certificate proves birth in Hawaii. No it doesn't. I was born in Hawaii. Since before 1900, anyone could obtain a Hawaii Birth Certificate on the word of the parent who would complete a form stating that the parent was a resident of Hawaii for the year proceeding birth, and that birth can take place ANYWHERE in the world. That's the form that I believe is sealed in the Hawaii Department of Health records that Obama is hiding. Of course, the proven fake birth certificate shown to citizens is proof that Barack Obama doesn't have any record proving that he was born in Hawaii. The original birth certificate issued to anyone actually born in Hawaii would have the information shown on the fake birth certificate which Obama doesn't have. His real birth certificate would have no local hospital noted, and that's why he's had his records sealed. There is just too much circumstantial evidence proving that a fraud has been committed and that Barack Obama is holding office illegally.
ReplyDeleteI forgot to mention that the Hawaii Dept. of Health automatically publishes birth announcements in the news papers as the birth certificates are issued. In Barack Obama’s case, 10 days after the fact.
ReplyDeleteRe: "Hawaii Dept. of Health automatically publishes birth announcements in the news papers as the birth certificates are issued. "
ReplyDeleteAnswer: Yes, and that means that Obama had a birth certificate issued in 1961, and in 1961 Hawaii did not allow the Department of Health to issue birth certificates to children who were not born in Hawaii. Obama had a birth certificate in 1961, and according to the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, he still has a BC in the files in Hawaii, and they say that they sent both the official short form and the long form BC to Obama, and they say that ALL the facts, repeat ALL the facts, on the BC that the White House put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.
So not only is there a BC, but the birth notices in the newspapers confirm that it was issued in 1961 (when Hawaii only issued BCs to children born in Hawaii), and that is further confirmed by the public Index Data file and by the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the the birth in Hawaii (in Kapiolani Hospital, which BTW did exist at the time) of a child to a woman named Stanley.
And, guess what, birthers have not even showed that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961. They would like us to believe that Obama was born in a foreign country and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii and the Index Data and the birth notices and the teacher who wrote home are all lying---and they have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport (and very very few 18-year-olds had passports in 1961).
Re: "Since before 1900, anyone could obtain a Hawaii Birth Certificate on the word of the parent who would complete a form stating that the parent was a resident of Hawaii for the year proceeding birth, and that birth can take place ANYWHERE in the world. "
ReplyDeleteAnswer. No, that was NOT allowed in 1961. The law that allowed that was not passed until 1982.
And, guess what, birthers have not even showed that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961. They would like us to believe that Obama was born in a foreign country and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii and the Index Data and the birth notices and the teacher who wrote home are all lying---and they have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport (and very very few 18-year-olds had passports in 1961).
Re: " Of course, the proven fake birth certificate shown to citizens is proof that Barack Obama doesn't have any record proving that he was born in Hawaii."
ReplyDeleteObama’s birth certificate is not forged. Only birther “experts” have called it forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).
One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.
Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.
And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.
Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”
John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.
Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.
Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.
And it is irrational (to say the least) to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
(Oh, and the government of Kenya has said that it investigated the “born in Kenya” claim, and that it did not happen.)
For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:
ReplyDelete(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank, and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;
(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);
(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).
If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.
(And birther sites have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961---and very very few 18-year-olds did in 1961, and even fewer women late in pregnancy traveled outside of the country--very very few women did because of the risk of stillbirth. And yet birthers want you to believe that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii are lying, and that birther "experts" are telling the truth when they claim that Obama's birth certificate was forged.)
So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?